Decking on "The Block"

[grechy12]

Hi all,

Wondering if anyone was watching the block last night and noticed the deck fixing method Lara was using ? It was a black strip fixed to the side of the joist with little upstand clips for the decking to clip in ? Does anyone know what this product is called?

You can see the black strips in the background of these pics:

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af20/grechy12/deck1.jpg

http://i989.photobucket.com/albums/af20/grechy12/deck2.jpg

[GoodEnough]

I've seen the same stuff at Bunnings. Just did our deck-probably should have thought about getting some lol

[Godzilla73]

Not a product i'd rate imo, at least it made it easier for them to rip up the boards to fix their mistake of not leaving a gap for airflow...

[Wavenut]

they are the technoplastics deck spacers - you can get them for the standard size boards - you still need to screw or nail the decks into place but they are handy it your doing it by yourself - remember you will need to make sure you have all the spacers rightangled and paralleled in the first instance other wise you will have to keep moving them

its called JET DECK and apparently protect the bearers from water

[grechy12]

I had someone reply to my query on the HomeOne forum also - they directed me here. Swiftdeck, The no screw clip system that will save you time and money! (http://www.swiftdeck.com.au/)

this is the same item as the one viewed on 'the block'

doesnt look too bad! although im in SA, doesnt list any suppliers down my way

ill try mitre10/bunnings on the weekened, see how we go.

[r3nov8or]

Yep, they mentioned Swiftdeck on the show tonight

[Uncle Bob]

I like their Cordless tools ;)

[r3nov8or]

I like their Cordless tools ;)

Last year's tradies probably charged more for having to use Black & Decker :)

[Brett2012]

The KlevaKlip system is a similar product. Instead of going on the side of the joists it sits on top. The finished deck looks pretty awesome with no visible srews or nails but it comes at a price....both products aren't cheap.

[swift deck]

Yep, they mentioned Swiftdeck on the show tonight
as the manufacturer of swift deck is see a lot of misunderstanding about our product.swift deck is a decking system.australian design. the cips are 450 mm long and nail to side of joist,our deck is profiled to fit clips.once you have a run of clips on you simply clip board in place .clip cost the same as deck screws .we estimate a 50 percent labour saving on the laying of the deck.clips are garanteed 25 yr's. we have 4 spiecies silvertop,spotted gum, mixed reds and cypress . we have 65&85mm deck. for further info call murray0417149381

[boycebj]

as the manufacturer of swift deck is see a lot of misunderstanding about our product.swift deck is a decking system.australian design. the cips are 450 mm long and nail to side of joist,our deck is profiled to fit clips.once you have a run of clips on you simply clip board in place .clip cost the same as deck screws .we estimate a 50 percent labour saving on the laying of the deck.clips are garanteed 25 yr's. we have 4 spiecies silvertop,spotted gum, mixed reds and cypress . we have 65&85mm deck. for further info call murray0417149381

Do you know where Swift Deck can be bought in Brisbane?

Thanks

[METRIX]

This looks like a nice system but as with all these systems you have to use their boards, as these have been profiled on the sides to suit the fastening, and these usually come at a premium to boards you can pick up at any timber merchant, so what you save in labour you may lose in timber cost.

At least it looks like you can remove a board later on if a problem arises without too much hassle, KlevaKlip systems interlock each board and would be difficult to remove a board in the middle if a problem arises.

Problem I can see, what happens when the boards start to slightly warp, there is nothing physically holding the boards face down to minimise this, other then that it looks good.

There is so many of these hidden fastening systems around, each has its advantages and dis advantages.
Have a look at the Camo system, we have used it and it worked well, boards easily removed later if required without disturbing the adjacent boards.

CAMO | Hidden Deck Fastening System | Home (http://www.camofasteners.com/hidden-fasteners.html)

[customhead]

Ive never tried any of these 'screwless' systems but would like to put my two cents in and say that I used one of these Snappy countersinks when I made my deck and it saved me a lot of time as I could adjust the head to the depth I wanted and the tungsten blades gave a nice sharp cut.

JPM Trend Snappy TC No 10 D/CSK CW Depth Stop #SNAP/CSDS/10TC (http://www.justtools.com.au/prod7142.htm)

http://www.trend-uk.com/en/AU/product/SNAP_CSDS_10TC/4/257/trend_snappy_tc_no_10_drill_countersink_comes_with _depth_stop_.html

[METRIX]

Ive never tried any of these 'screwless' systems but would like to put my two cents in and say that I used one of these Snappy countersinks when I made my deck and it saved me a lot of time as I could adjust the head to the depth I wanted and the tungsten blades gave a nice sharp cut.

JPM Trend Snappy TC No 10 D/CSK CW Depth Stop #SNAP/CSDS/10TC (http://www.justtools.com.au/prod7142.htm)

http://www.trend-uk.com/en/AU/product/SNAP_CSDS_10TC/4/257/trend_snappy_tc_no_10_drill_countersink_comes_with _depth_stop_.html

These look similar to the Smart or Macsim systems but TCT cutters - Very Nice.

SMART-BIT® - Pre-Drilling and Countersinking Tool for Decks and Fiber Cement Board | Starborn Industries, Inc. (http://www.starbornindustries.com/smart-bit)

Smart Bits (http://www.macsim.com.au/product.php?pfid=2&ptid=113&pt=Smart%20Bits&t=8)

[carpenter mike]

These bits are GOLD, I spent ages looking for a place to buy them, finally found a place near Frankston whilst on a job out there, then a couple of weeks later Bunnings started stocking them...

[Prospector]

Hmm. Looks good, a fantastic concept.... but it makes me wonder how the deck will be in 10yrs once the boards have dried out in the sun and shrunk slightly. Are they going to start getting loose?