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23rd Oct 2009, 10:30 AM
|  | Senior Member | | Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SE suburbs, Melbourne Age: 46
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| | Haha, looks like someone's with me on hardwiring (MickOs)
But in all probability, it should be enough to use password encryption. Chances are, any intrusion will be teenagers in your immediate neighbours in the 4 directions, and unless you have a keen & capable hacker there, they will only try getting onto your wireless system if you are ''silly" enough to have no password at all.
Just monitor your usage periodically, if no large unexpected chunk gets used, you're probably ok. | 
27th Oct 2009, 10:32 PM
| | Misfit | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perth, W.A
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Originally Posted by Ashwood Definitely!!! Never do without the encrypted password function in your router.
I'm more paranoid than that, and decided not to use the wireless function. I've now wired up my house with cat 5 cable & keystone faceplates, various points in the house all branching out from the router point. |
Totally agree with this. I'm a Systems Administrator and I not only have I disabled the wireless service on my router at home I unscrewed and removed the antenna as well.I also cabled the house over a wireless solution. | 
27th Oct 2009, 10:42 PM
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| | I guess the amount of paranoia depends on where you live. If I lived in a city apartment block I probably would be a little extra cautious with wireless. But out in the far burbs, either my elderly neighbours would have to turn out to be cyber-hacks or someone would have to sit in a car at the front of my house. Good luck to them.
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3rd Nov 2009, 02:58 PM
|  | Novice | | Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bunbury, WA
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| | Not just paranoia - performance benefits too.
From my inner city apartment lounge room, I can 'see' 13x wireless access points (3 of which are not secured  ). The problem this many viable connections has is that each 'overlap' at least one other (usually more), causing a degraded signal.
If on the other hand there were only 3x visible connections in the area, then you'd set them to channels 1, 6 & 11 and get no overap - and hence optimum performance.
Anyhow, that isn't my case so I'm in the process of hardwiring my LAN - 20 odd CAT6 ports spread throughout the apartment, all connected to a 24 port rack mounted gigabit switch. Complete overkill but while the gyprock was off, it was an easy decision and a quick-win job. | 
12th Nov 2009, 04:49 AM
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| | LAN party at Guv's | 
13th Nov 2009, 03:37 PM
|  | Neander Normite | | Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Melbourne Age: 51
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| | Nice way to go Guv. I used CAT6 too during a recent re-wiring job.
As for the wireless, I limit the MAC addresses to IP, and further limit what the IP can do. Repeated attempts to login are automatically permanently locked out. I get about three a week on wireless. A get a lot more from China and Korea on the internet. | 
16th Nov 2009, 09:21 AM
|  | Awesome | | Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Glenunga, SA Age: 34
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| | wow some truely paranoid people in this thread...
like has been posted toughest encyrption... disable admin log in via wireless, having a usb stick with your wireless settings on it for quick config of new devices.
I'm a data cabler and geek I have a wired and wireless running no dramas at all.
ps i hope all you guys how are getting cables run either have your data cabling ticket or getting done by someone who does.... | 
16th Nov 2009, 02:52 PM
| | | Well perhaps Im getting a bit older, but Ive seen too many systems come and go. At the mooment its LAN tomorrow, who knows Blue ray optical?. I remember the old paper floppy, then my mate installed 2 new style floppies. He was always extravagant. In Singapore he bought a 650MB hard drive for $500, Thought he could never fill that much space. So filling Lan cable all over the house, na, 10 years from now someone will look, laugh, and shake their head. | 
6th Dec 2009, 12:55 PM
| | Misfit | | Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Perth, W.A
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Originally Posted by rrobor Well perhaps Im getting a bit older, but Ive seen too many systems come and go. At the mooment its LAN tomorrow, who knows Blue ray optical?. I remember the old paper floppy, then my mate installed 2 new style floppies. He was always extravagant. In Singapore he bought a 650MB hard drive for $500, Thought he could never fill that much space. So filling Lan cable all over the house, na, 10 years from now someone will look, laugh, and shake their head. |
I've been in the industry for 13 years and have seen dramatic changes in that short time but you can't compare ethernet over CAT to a floppy drive. If you cable the house with CAT6 it will last ten years. | 
6th Dec 2009, 05:15 PM
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6th Dec 2009, 05:55 PM
| | | Im totally confused , Is there a temperature tax on a wireless router or for that matter data cable. Or was it like we all occasionaly do, get confused a bit after a nice cab sav. | 
11th Dec 2009, 11:59 AM
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11th Dec 2009, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by rrobor Im totally confused , Is there a temperature tax on a wireless router or for that matter data cable. Or was it like we all occasionaly do, get confused a bit after a nice cab sav. |
I think your plan is to firstly confuse yourself, then everyone else
Works well. | 
11th Dec 2009, 12:29 PM
| | | Well I just looked at hacking the WEP key as you suggest and Im still confused.
I have in my house a wee office with a nice soft wing backed easy chair for my computer. I think I would notice some sort of nerd sitting in my chair trying to hack passwords. Also the router has a button on the back marked factory reset, so all that seems a bit of a bother. Plus, from time to time I monitor usage, and who is on. So tell me why would I be interested in hacking my own computer. Sure I know there must be methods of attack in other ways but paranoia is not one of my issues. | 
11th Dec 2009, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by chromis Search Hack WEP Key | I was thinking exactly the same...
From wikipedia: Wired Equivalent Privacy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Quote: |
Beginning in 2001, several serious weaknesses were identified by cryptanalysts with the result that today a WEP connection can be cracked with readily available software within minutes.
| WPA (& WPA2) are far superior in terms of security - and generally faster too. |  | |
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