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    Default Dont Buy A Plasma Laser Tv"s Are Comin

    I was at the local University the other day chatting to an student studying to be an electronics engineer well he had been to korea or somewhere over that way on case study to the Mitsubishi factory and apparently they are about to release a Laser TV which will do away with the plasma they are rear projection have heaps more colours and use about a tenth of the power usage full 1080p High definition and 150mm thick they were suppose to be released for christmas but i think they are under pressure to hold off until the plasma's stock are exhausted and should be released in the new year so if your planning on a plasma for chrissy like i was i would hold off has anyone else heard about these?

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    Thanks for the heads up. have a nice Xmas


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    Here's a link. It apperas to be a little undecided as to its viability yet.

    However, you can be sure that it will cost a sh**load to begin with and the technology will need to be properly consumer tested (i.e. factory testing only tells them so much, you need real in home use to see how long they last and how well they perform.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laser_TV

    All for new technology though ... we'll wait and see.

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    Yea, believe it when you see it. that Novalux/Arasor hypefest around the time of their IPO made it all sound very suspect. They did a comparison demo for the press with normal and Laser TV sets, but it turned out the Laser TV was not a Laser TV, it was a normal TV 'emulating' the performance of the new technology. What a croc.

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    Like any new pending, future technology it will take a long time before I'd even consider buying it.
    The current 1080 plasma TVs are so good I'm not sure why anybody needs to worry about waiting for unproven technology.

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    Thanks for all that info friends its very helpful.

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    New technology was demonstrated in an Electronics Fair earlier this year in Germany that has pixel sized CRT tubes screen printed - yes screen printed - onto a plain sheet of glass - size is unlimited - they estimate a 5 ft screen would cost around $450 The image and colour is the sharpest ever. Total thickness about 1/2"

    Although revolutionary they said manufacturers have put so much capital in gearing up for plasma and LCD screens it will be 10 years before this next generation will be released - unless someone with the capital not into plasma wants to break into the market




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    Although revolutionary they said manufacturers have put so much capital in gearing up for plasma and LCD screens it will be 10 years before this next generation will be released - unless someone with the capital not into plasma wants to break into the market
    I totally agree I was reading the other day that plasma sales have fallen dramatically even though the prices have come down people are starting to realise how much juice/electricity plasmas suck and are turning them off from buying them and as said Mitsubishi and others are under pressure to stop the technology release of the laser otherwise as said companies will go broke after the huge investment in the plasma and lcd market..

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    "I was reading the other day that plasma sales have fallen dramatically even though the prices have come down people are starting to realise how much juice/electricity plasmas suck and are turning them off from buying them"

    No thats because they are like mobile phone everyone has one... how many people you know are on their second plasma(not counting techo junkies)?
    Its called market saturation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry72 View Post
    No thats because they are like mobile phone everyone has one... how many people you know are on their second plasma(not counting techo junkies)?
    Its called market saturation.
    Not this little black duck - in 1972 I paid $3500 for a Super VHS video recorder cause it was going to be the latest wiz bang thing (lucky it wasn't Beta) One bitten twice shy I guess so I resist spending a couple of thousand dollars on a piece of technology that keeps dropping in price - Only way I'll get a big screen plasma is if Foxtel gave one away with a cable subscription - now there's a unique marketing plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wombat2 View Post
    Not this little black duck - in 1972 I paid $3500 for a Super VHS video recorder cause it was going to be the latest wiz bang thing (lucky it wasn't Beta) One bitten twice shy I guess so I resist spending a couple of thousand dollars on a piece of technology that keeps dropping in price - Only way I'll get a big screen plasma is if Foxtel gave one away with a cable subscription - now there's a unique marketing plan
    That's exactly how I feel after purchasing my Super VHS camera, a few years back.

    I like the idea of including a free plasma tv with a new Foxtel subscription, however, as I am against cable tv, the subscription would have to be free as well.
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    But.. A LASER TV! Now you can accurately measure distances, set your pictures in a straight line on the wall and, if we are attacked, aim the TV at the incoming missiles and blow them out the air!!!. All while watching "as the stomach turns"

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    Quote Originally Posted by LGS View Post
    But.. A LASER TV! Now you can accurately measure distances, set your pictures in a straight line on the wall and, if we are attacked, aim the TV at the incoming missiles and blow them out the air!!!. All while watching "as the stomach turns"
    Men set your TV's to stun......
    When given a choice, people will always do the dumbest thing under the circumstances.

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    Plasmas might get legislated out of the game anyway. Lots of countries are stating they are going to mandate maximum power draws for Plasmas and non compliant stuff will have to be withdrawn. Could give a stimus to Laser production given the problems with reducing Plasma power drain.
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    Save your money 'cause we're all waiting for the holograms on the coffee table ... like in starwars!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wombat2 View Post
    Not this little black duck - in 1972 I paid $3500 for a Super VHS video recorder cause it was going to be the latest wiz bang thing (lucky it wasn't Beta) One bitten twice shy I guess so I resist spending a couple of thousand dollars on a piece of technology that keeps dropping in price - Only way I'll get a big screen plasma is if Foxtel gave one away with a cable subscription - now there's a unique marketing plan
    Thats exactly what I ment, most sane people have spent several thousand $$$ on plasma screen's will want a few years out of them before upgrading.

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    Hey Lads than some great responses I agree with a majority and I tend to agree that some people just want the latest and greatest well
    and good luck to hem if they can afford it since i moved out of home over 15 years back I still have the first tv have ever owned a 48cm NEC no remote and she was second hand when i bought it at a garage sale and it was possibly at least 10 yrs old then so it would be 25 yrs at least for the last 3 yrs it has been in the shed we upgraded to some big cheap and nasty set only because it was at a good price and was twice as big as the old dog.Wellthat lasted only 2 yrs and after the nexpected passing of this set had me keen as to get a plasma since they hit the market as much as I have lusted for one of these beautiesI dont have a lazy $3k i think i will wait to see how the laser performs when it gets released and then make a decision and live with the old faithful probably for anther 15 years ha ha ha

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    So for those of us needing to buy a TV in the very near future as I do, is there a consensus?

    Plasma?
    LCD?
    Just get a cheap CRT from Kmart?

    Looking in the catalogues, plasmas etc are getting very close to my price range now so it's not the simple "stick with the tube" decision it would have been a year or two ago.

    Does anyone have comparative power consumption figures for plasma, LCD, CRT? Everything I read says plasmas use heaps, but others seem to disagree.

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    well one thing is for sure and not in the too distant future either.....analog tv's will need a set top box to run them as we go digital ....I think from memory the date is sometime in early 2009...I am sure someone will know it, but anyway ...high volume tv sellers will be practically giving analog tv's away prior to the event, K-mart has already started and I assume most others will too .....from what I have heard ( correct me if I am wrong)....plasma tv's are not repairable .....LCD tv's are ....I suppose its a bit like vhs and beta ....time will tell who is the most worthy in the long run.

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    The digital bit doesn't worry me. Set top boxes are already common in Tas and have been for quite a while since we have a digital-only commercial channel (TDT (channel ten)) but only 2 analogue commercial channels (effectively 7 and 9 under different names).

    The way I see it though, ANY TV bought today will be ridiculously obsolete within 2 years. This time in 2005 there were still brand name 76cm CRT widescreens around - you get a larger plasma for the same price today and the majors have dropped CRT's.

    In all seriousness, TV's seem to have taken over from computers in terms of the "upgrade cycle". Just as the average PC has become so powerful that home users no longer need to regularly upgrade, the TV industry has taken over. It was only maybe 10 years ago that it was common to find 20 year old TV's. Now anything more than 5 years old seems to be considered ancient.

    My gut feeling is LCD will win out over plasma. The plasma industry is already in the position of having to defend its product which sounds rather like the "Beta is technically superior" argument from 25 years ago.

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    "Just as the average PC has become so powerful that home users no longer need to regularly upgrade"
    Unless your a PC gamer
    The latest games like Crysis will blitz any computer under $5k... with the game settings turned down!

    Brought mine last year... upgraded it this year(new gpu,ps and more ram)... need whole new system next year!
    I cant run games at my screens native resolution(1920x1200)even with a 512mb nvidia 7950GT and a 3.4gP4 with 2g of ddr2, it slows down to 10~15fps(unplayable)
    I need a nvidia 768mb 8800GTX the fastest dual core CPU and 4g of ddr2, even that will maybe net me 20~25fps!

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