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    Hi guys

    I currently have some light fittings up in the house. The ones which have 3 candle lights in them

    I would like to change these to batten holder fixtures

    The HPM Batten holder, has 4 terminals

    1x Ground
    1x Loop
    2x No marking

    The wiring in my roof of each room is as follows

    2x Red wires twisted together (Active). I assume the reason there is two wires is because the active is being brought across from another room perhaps?
    1x Black wire (Neutral)
    1x Yellow/Green wire (Ground)

    I have received mixed results on online searches

    One site says to wire:
    Ground to Ground (of course)
    Neutral to one of the unmarked terminals on the batten holder
    and the twisted 2x red active wires to loop


    Another website says to wire:
    Ground to Ground (of course)
    Neutral to one of the unmarked terminals on the batten holder
    and the twisted 2x red active wires to the other unmarked terminal, and leave the loop terminal on the batten holder untouched

    Just to add, each room I want to change over to batten holders (for bayonet fittings) all only have one light switch to control per room

    What is the correct method to wire out of the above two?!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbag2011 View Post
    What is the correct method to wire out of the above two?!?
    The correct method is..............call an electrician.
    People don't ever seem to realise that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune

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    +1

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    its funny because every person who doesnt have an idea responds with that

    I know the risks involved

    If you shut the power off at the meter box, and wire it correctly (which is why im checking first), then it will eliminate the risks involved

    Im not someone who just guesses and puts wires wherever they want and cause myself to get shocked/killed... hence the whole reason im here obtaining the right info

    I understand the concept of Earth, neutral, ground but the problem is, the batten holders dont come with any info at all

    I'm going to research and do it either way, whether someone on here knows or not

    Is this not an electrical subforum? a part of renovations involves rewiring of lights etc....

    Dont tell me every single person on here who makes changes to their home and wires new lights are ALL electricians... thats BS..

    If not, is there a forum someone can suggest...? and ill be out of your way

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    If you look through the old threads you might find something to help yourself, you might also find you have been given a response from two very knowledgeable people in the Feild suggesting if you can't be bothered to see how it was originally wired you probably should call an electrician because I doubt you will have the appropriate cat3+ test equip or the experience to do it to an acceptable standard.

    We are here for advice not play by play instuctions for simple tasks.

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    Correct way is. Green to earth terminal, black to one of the unmarked. Now for the two reds, if you want the light to work put them into the other unmarked but you won't be able to switch it off. now if you put the red in the loop you won't be able to switch it on so as someone else said get an electrician as you are not telling us all the story.

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    For Bros:
    Ive just pulled out a batten holder from the laundry which was installed
    It appears the two red actives are screwed into the 'loop'
    And my on/off switch works fine to turn it off/on
    So that means the rest should work the same if installed with this method then right

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    Quote Originally Posted by tbag2011 View Post
    are my posts being deleted?
    No mate, they were just auto moderated because of the pics and links.

    They should be there now.
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    Ambulance Service of NSW - Ambulance Service of NSW

    It will be cheaper if you subscribe before you start your project.

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    See if you can make it look like this...

    img_2959-large-.jpg
    No laurels to rest on

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    Quote Originally Posted by applied View Post
    Ambulance Service of NSW - Ambulance Service of NSW

    It will be cheaper if you subscribe before you start your project.
    Great asset to a tech forum you make
    Typical keyboard warrior
    If you have no valuable input besides smart remarks, dont fkn respond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by applied View Post
    Ambulance Service of NSW - Ambulance Service of NSW

    It will be cheaper if you subscribe before you start your project.
    Nothing to say but smart remarks? why bother posting at all
    Funny how you were the one and only visitor into my personal profile
    Trying to find out a bit more about me? get a life, mind your business

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    ADMIN Here.
    You've just had advice from a highly qualified, experienced electrician, who gives up his own time to advise members on the correct way to do things.
    You seem to be a little belligerent in your replies to advice, which is based upon your replies ........which indicate that you don't know what you're doing.

    This is not the way this forum works.

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    To applied: why bother posting smart remarks? keyboard warrior?
    Also noticed you visited my personal profile? have an interest? if you wanna come down to sydney to arrange a meet, im more than happy...

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    Ok you keep editing your posts, and changing what is said..so you know how forums work.
    Consequently...we shall say goodbye..............permanently.
    You are banned.

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    Well he got the bums rush pretty quick with that attitude.

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    Exactly! This forum works only by the likes of you blokes passing on your experience and expertise. I'm not about to have that buggered up by some newbie who doesn't know what he's doing and won't take logical advice.
    Thank You.

    ps...I'm off my high horse now.......

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    BzzzzztPOPssiiiizzzzzzzle to that!
    People don't ever seem to realise that doing what's right is no guarantee against misfortune

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    Awwwwhhh, i wanted to see it end in tears... And all i got was a BzzzzztPOPssiiiizzzzzzzle

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    Correct way is. Green to earth terminal, black to one of the unmarked. Now for the two reds, if you want the light to work put them into the other unmarked but you won't be able to switch it off. now if you put the red in the loop you won't be able to switch it on so as someone else said get an electrician as you are not telling us all the story.
    I know it is an old thread but this is what I found which is related to what you had explained

    http://www.siliconchip.com.au/cms/ga...l?a=110732&i=8

    How to Wire an Arlec Batten Lamp Holder | Relections

    Regards


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