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23rd Aug 2007, 01:24 PM
| | Novice | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane
Posts: 47
| | Cost to gyprock whole house My parents live in Innisfail and their house was badly damaged by cyclone larry in march 2006. They finally got a new roof and windows put in last week only 1 year and 5 months later. Anyway their existing walls are masonite which have bowed due to water damage. They are looking to replace all existing interior walls / ceiling with gyprock and also resheet the bathroom in villa board. I was just wanting to get someones opinion on costs. They have been getting very over inflated costs to get work done from people looking to profit from the situation and also a lack of available tradies to actually get all the jobs done.
They have a typical queensland style house 8 foot ceiling
3 bedrooms
Lounge
Dining room
Kitchen
Hallway
and 1 bathroom/ separate toilet.
(Just spoke to Dad and he said roughly 200-250m2 for walls and another 100m2 for the ceiling)
What sort of price should they be looking at to get new walls/ceiling put up. They have 1 quote so far and it was $30,000 which seems very high I have told them to get a few more. That quote was not even painted. | 
23rd Aug 2007, 01:52 PM
|  | Oink! Oink! | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sydney Age: 50
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| | Work out roughly how many square metres there are in it first. I think the going rate is around $25>$35 /m2. Anything over that and I'd say they're profiteering from it. May be best to wait until their workload dies down a bit and they start to get more competitive.
Rod will have a better idea when he shows up.
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23rd Aug 2007, 02:54 PM
|  | Pretend my avatar moves! | | Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: "The Home of the Biting Midge" MountainCreek Qld
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| | Yep, there's a bit of profiteering happening.
There again, ask yourself how you go about getting an out of work gyprocker to travel to Innisfail, find accomodation for the duration of the job, and pay him capital city rates. Half the job cost could be in travel costs alone. It's just not quite as simple as blatant profiteering.
Just get a few quotes and be prepared to wait for one you're happy with.
Cheers,
P | 
23rd Aug 2007, 03:51 PM
| | Golden Member | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morley WA
Posts: 516
| | This maybe of assistance, back in February this year I purchased 571m/2 of gyprock, 149m/2 villaboard, 277m2 insulation R3.3 and 288m2 insulation R2. Total cost $6,770.00. Sorry I can't break the costs down. Other items I've had to buy are the fixing teks, glues, joint tapes, flushing compounds, cornices and panel lift hire probably adding another $2,000 or so. I've done the installation myself.
I had every intention of picking up all sheeting myself but on one quote for the gyprock they had a total weight, being 6.2 tonnes, so I got the successful mob to deliver.
Here ya go here's a price break up from one of the mob who I got a quote from. Details of Enquiry: https://buybuildingsupplies.com.au/a...order_id=67334
Date of Enquiry: Tuesday 23 January, 2007
Products
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26 x R3.0 Bradford Insulation Batts 580mm (15256) = $1,487.20
24 x R2.0 Bradford Insulation Batts 580mm - wall & floor (15229) = $1,498.08
21 x 10mm Walling Plasterboard 1350x3000mm (GYPROCK10RE1330) = $312.69
8 x 10mm Walling Plasterboard 1350x3600mm (GYPROCK10RE1336) = $142.96
22 x 10mm Walling Plasterboard 1350x4200mm (GYPROCK10RE1342) = $458.70
12 x 10mm Walling Plasterboard 1350x4800mm (GYPROCK10RE1348) = $285.84
8 x 10mm Walling Plasterboard 1350x6000mm (GYPROCK10RE1360) = $238.56
6 x 10mm Ceiling Plasterboard 1200x3000mm (GYPROCK10CE1230) = $97.92
4 x 10mm Ceiling Plasterboard 1350x3600mm (GYPROCK10CE1336) = $88.04
6 x 10mm Ceiling Plasterboard 1350x4200mm (GYPROCK10CE1342) = $154.20
5 x 10mm Ceiling Plasterboard 1350x4800mm (GYPROCK10CE1348) = $146.80
14 x 10mm Ceiling Plasterboard 1200x6000mm (GYPROCK10CE1260) = $456.40
1 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1200x1800mm (VILLABOARD61218) = $19.64
2 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1200x3000mm (VILLABOARD61230) = $65.52
4 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1200x4200mm (VILLABOARD61242) = $183.12
7 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1350x2400mm (VILLABOARD61324) = $205.80
4 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1350x3000mm (VILLABOARD61330) = $147.00
3 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1350x3600mm (VILLABOARD61336) = $132.30
12 x 6mm Villaboard Sheeting 1350x4200mm (VILLABOARD61342) = $617.40
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Sub-Total: $6,738.17
(We'll advise of any freight - this is only an enquiry at this stage!!): $0.00
Total: $6,738.17 | 
23rd Aug 2007, 03:56 PM
|  | Champion Messmaker | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Noosa Heads
Posts: 512
| | An out of work Gyprocker LOL !! no such thing here on the Sunshine Coast QLD - there's a 15 month wait for bigger private jobs - like doing someones house.
I got a quote to do my entire 2 bedroom house in June - $24k but only if I did all the battening and reframing where necessary. I ended up doing it myself (again) for about $4 k .
Doog | 
23rd Aug 2007, 04:07 PM
| | Novice | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane
Posts: 47
| | Quote:
Originally Posted by rod1949 This maybe of assistance, back in February this year I purchased 571m/2 of gyprock, 149m/2 villaboard, 277m2 insulation R3.3 and 288m2 insulation R2. Total cost $6,770.00. Sorry I can't break the costs down. Other items I've had to buy are the fixing teks, glues, joint tapes, flushing compounds, cornices and panel lift hire probably adding another $2,000 or so. I've done the installation myself.
I had every intention of picking up all sheeting myself but on one quote for the gyprock they had a total weight, being 6.2 tonnes, so I got the successful mob to deliver. |
Rod1949 thanks for that as Dad is looking at around 250m2 for walls and 100m2 for ceiling going by your costs ($9000 approx)even with insulation included my parents should be looking at $4,000 for materials so $26,000 is for labour. May have to shop around for a few more quotes. Or wait a bit longer to get the job done at a better price. | 
23rd Aug 2007, 09:29 PM
| | quality + reliability | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,976
| | Fly me up there and I will do it for half the labour price you have been quoted!!!
Seriously those prices you have been quoted are a joke right?
Here in melbourne the supply and fix rate will be between $12. to $16 + GST depending on the complexity, cornice types etc. Some of the very straight forward homes come out at $11.50 per m2.
Material costs are as low as $3.00 per m2 for 10mm plasterboard.
You really need to shop around untill you get a fair dinkum price and not someone price gouging.
PS Rod1949 shop that price around you can do better than that particularly the villaboard . Try BGC plasterboard in WA they will be competetive.
Cheers Rod
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23rd Aug 2007, 10:05 PM
|  | Champion Messmaker | | Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Noosa Heads
Posts: 512
| | Hi Rod,
Maybe you should fly up !!
Prices are high here for any type of trade - especially if you want something done within 2 - 3 months. I imagine Innisfail would be worse at the moment!
Some of the labor rates I have been quoted within the last 6 months here at Noosa - Plumbers $110 an hour, Electricians with microvoltage certificate $145 an hour, Gyprock team for small jobs (2 guys) $ 60 an hour, Tiler $95 per metre, Carpenters $85 an hour. All these rates are for min 2 day jobs.
I now get my sparky and plumber through a local well regarded builder but the rates are still around $70 - $80. Said builder is currently building a few townhouses (smaller wall area than my house) and he said each townhouse cost him 18k for gyprock and finish wipes.
Is it any wonder I do as much as I can myself??
Doog | 
23rd Aug 2007, 10:12 PM
|  | Oink! Oink! | | Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sydney Age: 50
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by rod@plasterbrok Here in melbourne the supply and fix rate will be between $12. to $16 + GST depending on the complexity, cornice types etc. Some of the very straight forward homes come out at $11.50 per m2. | You should move to Sydney. A mate of mine got half a dozen quotes recently, none under $25/m. Not really a small job either. 4 bedrooms, WIR and a hallway. No cornice, just square set.
I suppose that project home mobs out west would get a better rate with their volume, but here on the North shore that would be about average.
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23rd Aug 2007, 10:43 PM
| | Novice | | Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Brisbane
Posts: 47
| | Thanks for all the replies. As I suspected Dad will have to shop around. The other method suggested to me today by a friend was pretty similar to your idea Rod. The friend said we should advertise for someone interested in doing the job on a flat hourly rate. Even if it meant flying them up to do a measure for materials then purchase everything needed and then fly them back up and pay accommodation for the duration of the job. | 
23rd Aug 2007, 11:39 PM
| | quality + reliability | | Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne
Posts: 1,976
| | Too grounded here in Melbourne to go moving around. We do pretty well here all things considered.
But we do have to do a high volume of work.
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24th Aug 2007, 10:36 AM
| | Golden Member | | Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Morley WA
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by rod@plasterbrok PS Rod1949 shop that price around you can do better than that particularly the villaboard . Try BGC plasterboard in WA they will be competetive.
Cheers Rod | Rod@plasterbrok,
Thanks for that Rod. Yep I did shop around including direct to BGC and Gyprock. The winner was Colli Timber supplying BGC plasterboard. It was the same with the insulation, Colli supplied me with AGI insulation at about $300 - $400 cheaper that AGI them selves could.
Rod | 
23rd Sep 2007, 08:17 AM
| | Novice | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| | Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirty Doogie An out of work Gyprocker LOL !! no such thing here on the Sunshine Coast QLD - there's a 15 month wait for bigger private jobs - like doing someones house.
I got a quote to do my entire 2 bedroom house in June - $24k but only if I did all the battening and reframing where necessary. I ended up doing it myself (again) for about $4 k .
Doog | Wow!
I really need to get out of Brisbane and get up to the Sunny Coast!
$$$$$$$$$!! | 
30th Sep 2007, 01:52 PM
| | Apprentice (new member) | | Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Brisbane
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| | Gee for that kind of money I should quit the office and take up an apprenticeship! |  |
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