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    Quote Originally Posted by John2b View Post
    To state the bleeding obvious it will stop when the virus carriers (aka people) stop flying around all over the planet, not before.
    I doubt air travel will stop; they're mostly younger people but the cruiseline industry is in real trouble because their main clients are older.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...to-be-scrapped

    I'm hoping that the covid shot can be added into the flu shot that some of us oldies get every year. But it's not going away anytime soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3nov8or View Post

    "All of humanity's problems stem from man's inability to sit quietly in a room alone," wrote the French philosopher Blaise Pascal. (c.1600)
    The sarcasm in Pascal's quote is lost on most government's so called "leaders" who would be extremely happy with a population who only eats and defecate.
    See below a message from my sister in law from the USA.

    We got a stolen election which put a criminal and a weakling in our Whitehouse, for Trump daring to stand up to and change our long standing unfair trade agreements with China.And for calling Covid what it is, the China Virus.
    China and the deep state and the one world order ilk were so desperate to get rid of their biggest threat, Trump, they unleashed a world wide crisis ie Covid, to cause chaos and fear in an effort to get rid of a guy who was accomplishing so much, in America and on the world stage, contrary to their vision.
    The crisis was well marketed above and beyond its actual danger but the fear mongering worked and they could see within their grasp, the reset they’ve been grooming for decades.
    God help us! We are subject to evil in the hands of the godless and the lawless who are lining their personal pockets by selling off our hard won freedoms and this beautiful and great country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    The sarcasm in Pascal's quote is lost on most....

    We got a stolen election which put a criminal and a weakling in our Whitehouse, for Trump daring to stand up to and change our long standing unfair trade agreements with China.And for calling Covid what it is, the China Virus.
    China and the deep state and the one world order ilk were so desperate to get rid of their biggest threat, Trump, they unleashed a world wide crisis ie Covid, to cause chaos and fear in an effort to get rid of a guy who was accomplishing so much.
    Crikey, hopefully that was just more sarcasm to be lost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilT2 View Post
    ... the cruiseline industry is in real trouble because their main clients are older.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business...to-be-scrapped
    To stop building new cruise ships is not the same as stopping cruises.

    This summer our island's tiny port with a population ~350 is scheduled to have 28 cruise ship dockings with up to 6000 on board. Most take bus tours of the island at a couple of hundred bucks per seat, quite a ripoff for a lightning tour that spends 80-90% of the time dirt roading between stops on the bus! Some wander from the terminal up to the village main street, look bemused standing in front of the supermarket, the only store, and ask where the town is! One of my mates is a lighthouse guide 25km from the port and has had 600 people turn up on buses within 15 minutes - the facility has just one coffee machine and two toilets!

    According to the guvmint, it's all for our good and prosperity and 'recovery' after the 2020 fires. Passengers cannot take food or liquor onto the ships, because that's eating into their profit, and visitors don't buy produce from our farmers markets, wineries, breweries and distilleries.

    The "benefit" we get is expropriated medical services, hijacked rubbish bins, volunteer fatigue, debilitated community services, deeper potholes, overburdened public facilities, roadside litter and an exhausted hospitality workforce, just to name some. And, of course, exposure to viruses and other diseases that affect not only humans, but our primary production industries as well.

    Meanwhile the cruise operators' exorbitant profits sail off into the sunset, whilst the cost burden of providing our island home as a venue for the jollification of seafarers is subsidised by our rates and your taxes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John2b View Post
    ... Most take bus tours of the island at a couple of hundred bucks per seat...
    Maybe they are electric buses

    Quote Originally Posted by John2b View Post
    ... Passengers cannot take food or liquor onto the ships, because that's eating into their profit, ...
    Not sure about "cannot", but the passengers wouldn't bother anyway, because usually all food is included and most opt for the drinks package, if that's their thing

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3nov8or View Post
    Not sure about "cannot", but the passengers wouldn't bother anyway, because usually all food is included and most opt for the drinks package, if that's their thing
    Cruise visitors often do tell businesses they would bother if they could, but they can't! Passengers cannot bring any alcohol from Kangaroo Island's international award winning distilleries or wineries to take home, which cuts that industry out of any impulsive purchase benefit from cruise ships.

    Likewise, despite the cruise companies coercing and blackmailing the tourism and business bodies to insist the local farmers markets are open when there is a ship in port, passengers cannot take any food product onto the ship. Those passengers who do go to the markets are incredibly apologetic that although they want to buy something they cannot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by John2b View Post
    Likewise, despite the cruise companies coercing and blackmailing the tourism and business bodies to insist the local farmers markets are open when there is a ship in port,
    More fool them, if they can't sell anything why bother.

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    My neighbour gave me honey from KI when they last went there. I can't imagine cruise ship passengers are strip searched for cruise ship contraband.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phild01 View Post
    ... I can't imagine cruise ship passengers are strip searched for cruise ship contraband.
    This was my thought too.

    Anyway back to the Virus

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    Quote Originally Posted by phild01 View Post
    I can't imagine cruise ship passengers are strip searched for cruise ship contraband.
    Not strip searched, bags and coat pockets are checked, like going to the footy or a concert, when boarding the boat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bros View Post
    if they can't sell anything why bother.
    100% correct Bros. Fortunately Covid saved the community markets by stopping the cruises. Cruises had completely buggered the markets because the local stallholders burned out and quit, and instead showies came over from the mainland to fill the market stalls and sell Chinese made trinkets to cruise passengers.
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    How are you guys going with the Kung Flu at the moment?
    What are your experiences?
    I'm nearly into my fourth week of it. Back to the Doc tomorrow. It is really pi55ing me off.
    Love it when DIYERS pin the blame on plumbers for their own shoddy work

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    Quote Originally Posted by plum View Post
    How are you guys going with the Kung Flu at the moment?
    What are your experiences?
    I'm nearly into my fourth week of it. Back to the Doc tomorrow. It is really pi55ing me off.
    I had it in July. Just the once for me. Wasn't more than a few aches and pains for a few days. Sorry to hear you are worse off. Nevertheless, or maybe mild because of, I'd had 3 jabs by then, and got the 4th in November (Modena Bivalent)

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    Still wear a mask so no experience with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phild01 View Post
    Still wear a mask so no experience with it.
    Gave up masks as soon as it was acceptable. It's no way to live. Still respect health care settings of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3nov8or View Post
    Gave up masks as soon as it was acceptable. It's no way to live. Still respect health care settings of course
    Too much of it around still, too many deaths. Just not spoken about anymore. I'll wait until it is milder and less abundant. We still don't know what can happen now China is spreading so much of it around the place.

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    There's a Dr on YouTube that reckon it's here for at least 20 years but will be mild, just like catching a cold.
    I think it's in this part .... sorry, skip to 18:40

    Last edited by Uncle Bob; 19th Jan 2023 at 05:40 PM. Reason: trying to fixing vid

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Bob View Post
    There's a Dr on YouTube that reckon it's here for at least 20 years but will be mild, just like catching a cold.
    I think it's in this part .... sorry, skip to 18:40
    Not a medical type doctor, but still has some qualifications with a PhD in nursing. He was good when ne started at the beginning of the pandemic but then seems to have wandered off badly and has attracted a few critics.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrODMv_VEBo

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    He seems to know his stuff, but I'm no expert in this matter lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plum View Post
    How are you guys going with the Kung Flu at the moment?
    What are your experiences?
    I'm nearly into my fourth week of it. Back to the Doc tomorrow. It is really pi55ing me off.
    My wife got it a few months ago - just one sick day with early-flu like symptoms. I got it from her (confirmed by rat and pcr) but in my case it was just a slight discomfort in the back of my throat. I thought it was maybe off-gassing from the boards I was cutting up building our kitchen but nope it was COVID. We both had 4 shots at the time. I think you are just unlucky.

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