It usually means that the whole pilot light assembly needs to be replaced, half hour job for somebody with the tools and experience. I don't usually say this but "Call a Plumber"
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Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
It usually means that the whole pilot light assembly needs to be replaced, half hour job for somebody with the tools and experience. I don't usually say this but "Call a Plumber"
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"A big boy did it and ran away"
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Two possible reasons.
No gas gets to the little jet.
The bimetal switch does not work or is bent out of the way of the flame.
Cleaning the pilot jet and air intake regulator and resetting the metal plate will solve it.
Oh ... third reason, the bypass push button thingy does not open the gas and does not bypass the switch ... or words to that effect
If your house is cursed however, none of this will work and you need to call an exorcist. Best are the one from Jamaica.
Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance
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If the gas has been run out of the line due to being turned off it can take a while to prime. I cheat and use one of those BBQ gas igniters placed at same point the igniter sparks. Hold down the gas button and wait quite a while.
Pilot either dirty or thermo-couple stuffed. What make and model Barry?
Love it when DIYERS pin the blame on plumbers for their own shoddy work
Wow! Really appreciate the assistance guys!
Rheem 3IN135
Manufactured 11/11/99 LOL!
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Tried a number of plumbers.
Holiday loading. Freakin' heck!
Definitely cursed. With the hail.
Found the door to it opened at the perfect angle to ricochet all the golf ball sized hail inwards.
Lighting instructions says 10 seconds.
I tried 30 before loosing my nerve.
Tried the gas lighter as well.
No luck.
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
OK got it burning now.
Thanks to all.
Took a small sweeper and and just brushed everything.
Held the pilot button down for a full one minute.
And tried to lite with a handheld gas lighter.
Just moved it around a lot.
Absolutely no sign of pilot being lit.
Look after look. Photograph after photograph.
Nothing.
And risked a normal test by turning the dial to warmer.
Wasn't expecting anything.
And sounded like backdraft rolling thunder building up.
Really loud (in comparison to being off) gas and flame sounds.
Had another look and could hardly see the burner flaming.
I don't understand why it has to be such a drama.
And why there isn't a window you can look thru to see the pilot light on or not.
Doesn't help I was kneeling on volcano rocks. grrrr
Quick knee protectors and a pine board to lean my elbow on.
Returned from poor puppy can't carry that big stick - to hero status!
Thanks again gents!
Have a great holiday!
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
Nice one Barry, you'll find the date of manufacture is 1994, it's had a good and long life. Your third pic shows a bit of moisture around the burner area, I wouldn't expect it to last much longer.
Love it when DIYERS pin the blame on plumbers for their own shoddy work
Yes sounds like you had an empty gas line back to meter it can take a couple minutes to purge via the pilot.
Moist igniter would not help and I agree with Plum, she's ready to fail.
25 years old.
How do I know when it has failed?
i.e. when I can't get it to light?
Or are we suggesting it should be replaced now?
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
You will know when it's completely stuffed when someone gets in the shower and has no hot water and dad goes out to re-light the unit and there'll be quantities of water leaking out the front. It will be on a Friday lunchtime just before a long weekend, maybe on the Thursday before Easter and you'll end up ringing one of those dodgy fridge magnet plumbers and will quote you 4 times the price of a regular licenced plumber, should I go on????
Love it when DIYERS pin the blame on plumbers for their own shoddy work
Do a bit of homework as well as you have time on your side. Do you want a storage unit similar to what you have, instantaneous or solar. Storage is probably going to be cheapest.
Thanks gents.
We plan on down sizing in two to five years.
So the lady is concerned about spending money on a house we won't be living in.
I've been wanting to invest in solar since home sustainability was a thing.
But a 3k investment will take 3 years to recoup.
Storage is probably what we will go with.
As the boss has to make all the financial decisions.
But, as she says, not until we have to.
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
Ever changed the sacrificial anode since new?
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Fair enough. Just change it like for like.
Still reckon the time is now for replacement regardless of what SWMBO says.
Otherwise, like plum said it will bite you on the bum.
When you do get around to replacing it, I would recommend sitting another concrete slab on top of the one that should already be there, to give it some extra elevation.
Your current unit looks like it is suffering a little from underground disease.
Or why not go for an instantaneous unit.
Can not recommend...ours is not great though we realise now it is because the fancy controller that actually makes them function properly is always optional. And the previous owner didn't avail themselves of it.
The fact we are also use water supplied either via gravity or a pressure pump makes this lack even worse...
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You usually need to upgrade the line to 1" (25mm) for instantaneous especially if there is gas heating and cooking as well. We are happy with instantaneous however when it was put in the cost of a replacement copper line was not cheap. We have had a unit for office kitchen use which was pulled out because it was not doing its job. In that case it was back to storage.
Some installations are not uncommon where 50mm copper is required. Talking nat gas here where there may be a ducted heater drawing over 200mjs, con flow 200mjs, cooking 30mjs then then throw in a 260mj spa or pool heater.
Love it when DIYERS pin the blame on plumbers for their own shoddy work
Thanks to all for help.
OK I've had to relight the pilot 4 out of the last 7 days and its gone out again.
This time I waited for the lady to find cold water in her shower.
She's asked me go sort it out properly.
Looking for suggestions on the best REPLACEMENT solution.
So far I think it's like for like for the best cost.
Anyone know of any good deals with good installers, etc?
Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
P.M. sent.
Love it when DIYERS pin the blame on plumbers for their own shoddy work
You may need upgrades to the plumbing and not just a simple replacement, the gas supply line will probably need to be replaced with a larger one, even potential to need an upgrade to the gas meter.
There is also some restriction to water flow, if you already have low water pressure this will add to it.
An electrical connection is also required.
You will not have hot water when the power is out, you can get units that generate the spark via the flow of water but these units restrict the flow even further.
Ok thanks heaps.
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
Special big thanks to Plum.
Thanks to all who replied.
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Sourced a replacement at 11 and was taking a hot shower by 2pm.
Nice!
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge
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AQUAMAX G270SS-NG 5 STAR EXTERNAL GAS HOT WATER HEATER
WITH STAINLESS STEEL TANK
130 LITRES
12 YEAR CYLINDER WARRANTY
Really happy with the service.
Quick 3 hour turn around.
Installed new and removed old heater.
Fully Licensed Plumber/Gasfitter.
Didn't realize how stressful it was anticipating having to re-light the burner.
Thanks,
Barry G. Sumpter
May Yesterdays Tears Quench the Thirst for Tomorrows Revenge