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    Hey all,
    Just got ourselvs a new wood heater - have had one in the last house. I got the supplied fluekit with it and will be getting it installed, but I feel like there's something wrong.
    Firstly, the active flue (inner flue) from a double walled system, doesnt really fit properly. Its very lose, and its leaning forward. There's a tab welded on the inside of the flue opeoning on the heater and it makes the flue lean forward.

    My last heater had the flue slide in nice and tight, not like this at all

    The only thing I can think of, is that the flue needs to be stretched over to fit OVER the ring, and not sit inside it.
    I want to make sure I've got everything for when the installer comes - second pair of eyes would be great!

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    What brand and did it come with a full installation instruction book?
    Possibly the first section of flue pipe is supplied with a small locating cut-out to suit that lug
    "A big boy did it and ran away"

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    Second thought is to phone the place you bought it from and double check that they supplied the correct flue kit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondog55 View Post
    What brand and did it come with a full installation instruction book?
    Possibly the first section of flue pipe is supplied with a small locating cut-out to suit that lug

    Yeah I thought about that last night, there's no section with a locating lug or cut out...

    The instructions are pretty vague, its a Norseman Nevada mkII, from bbq's galore. The flue kit supplied is the right size (6 inch).
    All the instructions say is to slip the flue in the hole! haha.

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    Have you tried the other end of the flue.
    The end you are presently showing is the crimped end which is usually the small end which would usually go uppermost to go inside the next length
    so the rising smoke would go up the flue as opposed to coming out the join.

    Failing that there may be an adaptor missing.

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    I think you are wrong there cyclic, small end usually is down so any creosote runs into the firebox to be burnt and not onto the outside of the flue where it is both ugly and a real fire hazard
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    Not wrong about skimpy installation details, I just did some searching and not a lot of detail.
    Who is doing the installation for you? You have to assume they know what they are doing but I have seen a few bad ones over the years
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    Yeah the installation details are horrible. The flue kit actually came with some instructions but it doesn't provide enough info either. I ran into the shop and had a look just now. All the fireplaces have the same tab in them. So I'm absolutely at a loss as to how it works.

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    "When in doubt as a salesman"??
    Maybe the flue needs a slot cut in it with a small angle grinder for locating purposes but I have never seen a wood fire with a lug there. Did you assemble it your self or buy it ready to go?
    Flue steel is very springy so I can see a small slot working but I don't know why it would be needed.
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    Does the uncrimped end fit, if so I'd say you need to cut the crimped end off your first pipe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclic View Post
    Have you tried the other end of the flue.
    The end you are presently showing is the crimped end which is usually the small end which would usually go uppermost to go inside the next length
    so the rising smoke would go up the flue as opposed to coming out the join.

    Failing that there may be an adaptor missing.
    exactly my thoughts
    tho I understand what moondog is saying too

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    This from Jetmaster:
    All 6” assembled flues must have the crimps pointing downwards https://jetmastervic.com.au/wp-conte...all-Manual.pdf

    and from: http://www.firesideheating.com.au/wp...all-manual.pdf
    The chimney connector must be installed with the crimped end pointing downwards (see Figure 3).This prevents creosote from leaking to the exterior of the pipe.

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    It's easy to see how it could be installed upside now as both ways seem to have their merits.
    But, the few I helped install many years ago had the crimped end down.

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    The 6" (hot flue) goes crimp down, the sleeve over it goes crimp up, that kit or that heater ... are missing an adaptor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marc View Post
    The 6" (hot flue) goes crimp down, the sleeve over it goes crimp up,

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    I am not sure why you didn't ask the supplier - they will have to put it right if it is wrong. See picture below of the standard flue kit installation.

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    Ok, I found out some more info. The tab is supposed to be there. It's on pretty much all wood heaters in the shop.



    The crimped needs to be trimed so the bulge can sit on the spigot. I do have a collar that goes over this for the second skin, thats no issue, it just sits top of the heater.
    There was some other detail I found, which answered a few questions for me - as to how the inner flue keeps its gap between that and the outter flue.

    Here it is for thsoe also wondering! You cut the flue and bend some tabs so it doesn't touch and maintains a air distance! i always did wonder this. I know yhou can buy spacers, but that doesn't seem economical to me.



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