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    HI all

    Thanks for all the advice thru the forums...

    Have question I have yet to seen answered - and it may in fact be simple.

    Scenario:

    Old treated pine deck - nappysan/water blaster - a bit of sanding - looking good and uniform back to wood only.

    Stained with Cabots Decking stain (the OIL/Mineral turps clean up one)
    Looks good a little to dull/not quite opaque layer.

    NOW WHAT?

    Another coat of Same stain or can I apply OIL (Mineral turps clean up oil) on top??

    Any thoughts

    Cheers

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    Welcome to the forum. I am a little confused with your question. Cabots makes a natural oil and a tinted oil stain. Both products have kerosine as the oil component. Both clean up only in turps. The natural has very little to no tint and the stain has been tinted with various coloured tints. I would think you could add either over what you have put down as they are virtually the same apart from the colour.

    jimj

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    Thanks
    It's the difference (in my mind!) between tinted oil (cabots oil not aqua deck) and stain (oil based)

    I have used oil based stain. There advice (written) seems to be not to put oil based Oil on top of it (regardless of level of tint) until it is not waterproof again.

    If I have used oil based stain - recommend recoat in 24 hours can I Instead use any oil oil tinted or otherwise?

    Will check the Msds ingredients - thanks

    Glenn

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    Perhaps a call to the Cabots customer service would be the wisest. I don't want to offer misgiuded information.

    jimj

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    Thanks Jim for you advice,

    I have spoken to Cabots and they suggested "you could do it" - but may not absorb into stain well and lead to excessive oil remaining/needing to be wiped off. Didn't quite fill me with confidence.

    Back in the day when everything was oil based - wasn't it common to stain and then follow up with clear/more opaque oil x2/x3 coats as required??? Thats certainly what has been suggested to me.

    I have checked out the MSDS as suggested and the oil based oil and the oil based stain are similar (one with 10-30 Kerosine and other with 60% Kerosine)
    Stain:
    Components
    Synthetic polymer(s) 10-<30%
    Kerosine 10-<30%
    White spirit (Stoddard solvent) 10-<30%
    Solvent naphtha
    (petroleum)heavy arom. 10-<30%
    Pigments 1-<10%
    Additives to 100%

    Oil based oil
    Synthetic polymer(s) 10-<30%
    Solvent naphtha
    (petroleum)heavy arom. 1-<10%
    Kerosine >60%
    Additives 1-<10%
    Pigments 1-<10%


    Whether they are similar enough is the question.

    Will let you know what happens!

    Glenn


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    Well done on the homework. I have been to many houses where a kerosine based coating has been put down a little too liberally and even after wiping up the excess with rags has remained a sticky mess for a month. In that time all the dog&cat hair has stuck along with bird feathers,wind blown seeds and a variety of other things.

    That is probably the main issue (drying out). That would be influenced by many environmental factors.

    Please keep the forum up to date as that is how we can all learn and benefit.

    jimj restore-a-deck.com.au

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