Replacing old kitchen appliances in existing kitchen

**ppsnake** · 11th Jan 2013, 11:53 AM

We are about to replace the appliances in our kitchen, all the old stuff still works but is getting very tired.
Dishwasher tripping power, Oven needing bits of cardboard shoved into the front to work, Gas goes out for no apparent reason etc etc.

We have picked out some nice shiny new Bosch appliances (Dishwasher, Oven, and Cooktop).

But I dont really know where to start to get them installed.

We have called a plumber to get a general idea on price and work involved in getting the cooktop and oven fitted, I will do the dishwasher myself.

And he suggested to make sure the hole was big enough to take the new cook top.

Two problems this has introduced:
First the old hole in the bench is quite large, finding a simliar 700mm cook top to fit the hole is hard.
Second the old Oven is 700mm high (old Westinghouse with a griller on top) the new oven is only 600mm high.

So my questions are: Does the hole in the bench need to be perfect if the top of the cooktop is large enough to cover it up?
I understand they are supposed to be clamed to the Bench (which the old one isnt).
Can I add more wood with liquid nails to the inside of the hole so it can clamp to it?

and

How can I build the Oven up?
We dont plan on replacing the kitchen because its not really in that bad of condition.
However I went out to Bunnings to try and get an idea of how their flat pack kitchens held the oven, and the bloke i spoke to started talking about heat treating and platforms under the Oven.

This sounds complicated and expensive.
Because the old oven is just jammed in the spot will a brand new pyrolitic oven generate enough heat on the outside to require heat treating on the inside of the cabinet and can i do this easily?

Thanks in advance for the help!

**Godzilla73** · 11th Jan 2013, 02:17 PM

G'day,

Dishwasher - Width should be ok, you need 605mm. Check the height you have, will it go under the bench?

Oven - Check the installation instructions online before purchase, some need more ventilation than others. With the height, it's easy enough to build a frame or box to sit it on and then you could just paint a piece of MDF to match your door colour for the face.

Hotplate - One option is to get a stainless steel frame made up with the correct cutout for the new hotplate and big enough to cover the old hole.

Just a bit of mucking around but can be done.

Good luck.

**ppsnake** · 16th Jan 2013, 09:32 PM

Thank you Godzilla73!

Looks like the cooktop will be sweet as in bench as it is.

The Oven will be completely within Boschs specs which is good.
I will chuck a couple of bits of wood under it to block it up, luckly our kitchen is white melamine so i will just board it up.
Only problem will be staining it so it looks old and brown like the rest of the kitchen.

Only decision now is built under or freestanding dishwasher.
Any arguments for and against?

Thanks again for the help!

**Godzilla73** · 16th Jan 2013, 09:58 PM

Either D/W is ok, you'll find quite a few have a removable top to allow for them to slide under bench if you do reno the kitchen in a few years time.

**Pitto** · 17th Jan 2013, 05:55 PM

freestanding = less mucking around, just slide it in and plumb/and plug it in, level it up a few retaining screws and your done.

intergrated = get a professional in. lots of mucking around, fine adjustments, a new melamine matching door to the rest of the kitchen....... list goes on.

**ppsnake** · 18th Jan 2013, 11:03 AM

Thanks Pito.
Is there a distinction between Integrated, built under, and freestanding?
The Sales man led me to believe that the built under was one really no different to a freestanding but that it had its own kick panel and no top of its own.

The exact models i am trying to decide between are:

Bosch Household Appliances - Appliances - Dishwashers - Freestanding - SMS68T08AU

and

Bosch Household Appliances - Appliances - Dishwashers - Built-Under - SMU68M05AU

**Eden** · 24th Jan 2013, 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by ppsnake

Thanks Pito.
Is there a distinction between Integrated, built under, and freestanding?
The Sales man led me to believe that the built under was one really no different to a freestanding but that it had its own kick panel and no top of its own.

the salesman sounds like a salesman

eden

**ppsnake** · 25th Jan 2013, 07:34 AM

Originally Posted by Eden

the salesman sounds like a salesman

eden

Yeah in the end i think this was the case.

We ended up going for the freestanding one, just because being an old kitchen i didnt want to have to screw around getting it to match.

The model we picked out wasnt instock at the local store, where as the built under model was.
They tried to talk me out of that model saying they had heard bad things, through weeks of research online i have found no negative reviews, comments, or experiences with that model.

Hopefully they will arrive today.

Now I just need to organise the sparkie and plumber to hook them all up.

Thanks again for your help everyone!

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