Hire the best Bathroom Renovator

Looking for Ideas

Results 1 to 7 of 7
  1. #1
    Apprentice (new member)
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    New South Wales
    Posts
    3

    Default Looking for Ideas

    Hello all. I decided to do some pulling apart and now have an empty bathroom full of potential. At the moment my issue is with the floors and what to do with them. The floor is a suspended slab in a 1950's house, is uneven and has the ceramic drains built in. I was just wondering whether I could get a plumber to cut the ceramic pipes underneath the slab, fill them in with concrete in the slab. I will be moving the drain holes. Also I have a couple of built up areas where the closet and the bath were. I was going to jack hammer them out and then use a self leveller. I was just wondering whether this would work, or should I get a concrete grinder in and not put so much stress on the slab?

    Also I need to put some formwork around edge to keep leveller in and have no idea what to use.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 20180512_122530.jpg   20180512_122536.jpg   20180512_122545.jpg   20180512_122548.jpg  

  2. #2
    3K Club Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Qld
    Posts
    3,278

    Default

    G'day, Kegasaurus.
    Replacing the rotted timbers is pretty simple. The bottom wall to floor joint should have a horizontal timber on all walls. This ensures less movement so the waterproofing will not be damaged and fail. Just cut the bottom off each of the uprights so you can fit the new timber under each upright. The vertical timbers that have rot can be sistered down onto the new timbers at the wall to floor joint.

    Relocating the floor wastes is going to be expensive and will result in a lot of work re levelling the floor to ensure proper drainage. I assume the level of the slab is about 15 to 20mm below the hallway floor excluding the levelling material?

    Any idea how thick the levelling material is? The main concern with using a jackhammer is the job of filling/ levelling the surface ready for waterproofing. Also, keep in mind the shower base needs to close level with the bottom of the wall to floor joint on all sides.

    Good luck and fair winds.
    Growing old is compulsory, growing up is not.
    http://www.wet-seal.com.au/waterproofing/locations.html

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Western Australia
    Posts
    459

    Default

    The drains for bath/sink are easy to move/recut in a suspended slab with a concrete core drill. However as mentioned above the floor drain needs to stay at the lowest point.
    The concrete under the bath most likely was added after the main slab as support and should lift off fairly easy.
    A row of bricks will provide an edge initially and then can be extended up to edge of bath latter. Personally I used concrete and mounted the bath while it was still wet.

    I hope you have checked that the wall lining is fibro board and not asbestos?

  4. #4
    Apprentice (new member)
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    New South Wales
    Posts
    3

    Default

    Haha, the floor drain isn't at the lowest point so some rectifying work is going to need to take place. The levelling material is all gone, the only bits left to get rid of are the built up areas where the bath and closet were. Both of these built up areas were done when the pour happened and are pretty solid. I was going to jackhammer these out, use a grinder to get out the lumps and then use a levelling compound to get the floor a little level before screeding. This will mean cutting, capping and filling the old masonary pipes. Yes all new drains will be cored through the slab and finally some traps installed so no more sewer smell.

    The edge of the slab is only a cm lower than the floor, so I will take this down a bit as it's the highest part of the floor. I'm going to build up the hallway floors and hopefully this will take a bit of the step into the bathroom away.

    Hopefully this sounds feasible.

    The walls were indeed asbestos, but luckily I know a guy who is a licensed removalist and we both got rid of this. Came off pretty well for old brittle sheeting.

    A question. As three side of the slab fall directly to the earth below, would aluminium strips be alright to use as formwork to keep the leveller in. I'm not very handy with the old jackhammer and there's a few chunks missing.

  5. #5
    3K Club Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    Qld
    Posts
    3,278

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kegasaurus View Post
    Haha, the floor drain isn't at the lowest point so some rectifying work is going to need to take place. The levelling material is all gone, the only bits left to get rid of are the built up areas where the bath and closet were. Both of these built up areas were done when the pour happened and are pretty solid. I was going to jackhammer these out, use a grinder to get out the lumps and then use a levelling compound to get the floor a little level before screeding. This will mean cutting, capping and filling the old masonry pipes. Yes, all new drains will be cored through the slab and finally, some traps installed so no more sewer smell.

    The edge of the slab is only a cm lower than the floor, so I will take this down a bit as it's the highest part of the floor. I'm going to build up the hallway floors and hopefully, this will take a bit of the step into the bathroom away.

    Hopefully, this sounds feasible.

    The walls were indeed asbestos, but luckily I know a guy who is a licensed removalist and we both got rid of this. Came off pretty well for old brittle sheeting.

    A question. As three side of the slab fall directly to the earth below, would aluminium strips be alright to use as formwork to keep the leveller in. I'm not very handy with the old jackhammer and there are a few chunks missing.

    Common practice is to level the floor after sheeting the walls, no angles required.
    The step down at the entry point will need to accommodate the depth of the tiles and the glue, you could grind out just this area and then grind a drainage path toward the floor waste. Any water under the tiles will flow through the tile glue as normal.
    Growing old is compulsory, growing up is not.
    http://www.wet-seal.com.au/waterproofing/locations.html

  6. #6
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Apr 2018
    Location
    Western Australia
    Posts
    459

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by kegasaurus View Post
    The walls were indeed asbestos, but luckily I know a guy who is a licensed removalist and we both got rid of this. Came off pretty well for old brittle sheeting.
    He may be licenced but I question his qualifications. I can see what appear to be multiple pieces of the sheeting in your photo's. Its those small bits that get ground up as you step on them that produce the fibers that produce the greatest risk.
    Those need to be cleaned up before you contaminate the rest of the house.
    You need to hire a asbestos rated vacuum cleaner to finish the job properly.

  7. #7
    Apprentice (new member)
    Join Date
    Dec 2016
    Location
    New South Wales
    Posts
    3

    Default

    They're floor tiles not sheeting.

Similar Threads

  1. Ideas please
    By 1930s in forum Structural Renovation
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: 10th Sep 2014, 06:40 AM
  2. Any ideas what this is?
    By Adam23 in forum Sub Flooring
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 1st Mar 2013, 09:07 PM
  3. Need ideas
    By leeton in forum Kitchens
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: 17th May 2009, 07:51 PM
  4. Ideas welcome
    By Jedo_03 in forum Flooring
    Replies: 5
    Last Post: 3rd Apr 2007, 10:56 AM
  5. Any ideas
    By mullfitz in forum Roofing
    Replies: 4
    Last Post: 18th Oct 2006, 03:49 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •