Hanging pictures or TV on plaster with no studs?

https://www.rondo.com.au/products/wa...raming-system/

In a lot of ways easier to find than timber studs, get a powerful magnet on a length of cord as you slide it across the wall the magnet will pull to the stud.

Originally Posted by droog

https://www.rondo.com.au/products/wa...raming-system/

In a lot of ways easier to find than timber studs, get a powerful magnet on a length of cord as you slide it across the wall the magnet will pull to the stud.

Brilliant. That's so helpful. How thick are the studs? 1-2mm? And it looks like they are square and hollow?
So... a) Find stud; b) Drill through plaster to stud, change drill - through stud; c) Then... what do you recommend? I'm concerned the metal spring toggles mightn't have room to open out. Anyway in the meantime I'll explore their site.

And I should be able to mount a big TV then.

The specs for that particular brand is in the document, BMT 0.50 or 0.55 that’s 0.5 and 0.55 mm

Dont know why you would need to change drills, just one drill through the lot.
There are anchors for timber and or metal studs, toggles are not for use in studs.

You could even use self-drilling metal screws. Mark your holes Drill until the screw-end bit drills through the steel. Reverse it out. Position the picture or TV hanger (several holes of course) and fix the hanger with the screws which drilled the holes. Use a driver (instead of a drill) for better control of the screw for both drilling and fixing. Even better, find an offcut of the steel to practice on. (The plaster will be like butter)

E.g. https://www.bunnings.com.au/zenith-1...-pack_p2408977

You might want a different screw head, e.g. hex, pan or button head, depending on what you are fixing

Originally Posted by METRIX

How heavy is the TV, how heavy / what size are the pictures, you can mount these to the walls .

Thanks @droog @3nov8or and @metrix - that's given a clear picture and some good tips.
Hisense 65" TV is about 23kg + weight of wall mount. I'm thinking of maybe putting up some plywood across first to spread the load and also give the screws more stability. I'm also looking at these https://www.bunnings.com.au/ramset-s...-pack_p2260188 which hold 20kg each. Four of these should do the trick.
Two paintings c.135x90cm. Both framed and mounted on timber. I'll have to weigh them, moving in so no idea where scales are. Other paintings smaller.

Here ya go, direct from the Bunnings catalogue, holds up to 30 kg it appears.

The 3M claw looks great , but how would this work with the metal studs since the prongs are 40mm from what I gather on the Bunnings description? How thick is the plaster? And if it isn't on the studs, doesn't that pose risks with a sideways pull on plaster not directly attached to studs?

Originally Posted by bcp

The 3M claw looks great , but how would this work with the metal studs since the prongs are 40mm from what I gather on the Bunnings description? How thick is the plaster? And if it isn't on the studs, doesn't that pose risks with a sideways pull on plaster not directly attached to studs?

Deer with no eyes, I have never used them but I was boringly wandering through the Bunnings catalogue that SHMBO had on the table, saw them, and remembered you asking about hanging things, so
being ever helpful as I am I put up the pic for you.
I would suggest you look up the 3M site or even contact 3M with your questions, or if you really want to risk it, ask a helpful staff member at Bunnings.
On second thoughts, forget asking Bunnings, just ask 3M.


edit... Just had another look at the pic and (remember I have not seen them in the flesh) if the prongs that go in the wall are more than 40 mm apart, there is no reason why you could not fit them in place over a stud then fit a screw through them into the stud to give them more strength

Australian plasterboard I think is either 10mm or 13mm(?) and the 3M Claw prongs are 11.4mm. If this plasterboard is only 10mm (I don't know yet) doesn't that mean I will have to avoid the studs? Otherwise it won't penetrate the metal and therefore will not function correctly. I saw someone on youtube have to hammer the last bit in - so he hit a wooden stud but didn't seem to know what was happening.

Also can someone please confirm: Does electrical wiring run down the outside of the studs the same as for wooden studs? I expect so but I definitely don't want to drill based on assumptions. Might wreck my drill among other things...