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    Question Lazy man's adhesive for pine joist to fibreglass reinforced gypsum ceiling

    Hi guys,

    I am about to replace some jarrah/karri termite damaged joists with treated pine and am looking for an easy fix without doing tedious fibre/plaster anchors.

    Is there a ready mix (tub/cartrige) adhesive that would effectively grab dressed treated pine to fibreglass reinforced gypsum ceiling? Bostic/Gyprock stud adhesives don't seem to like the smooth finish of the pine without lots of nails wich from experience rip through.

    The only other adhesive I can think of is liquid nails, but am yet to try it. I will level the ceiling from underneath with patio tubes/acrow props so will be able to exert a bit of pressure while the adhesive goes off. I can also wire brush/flap disk the ceiling, but not the pine due to the termite coating.

    Any ideas to make this job as easy as possible are welcome

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    Quote Originally Posted by ++Dan++ View Post
    Hi guys,

    I am about to replace some jarrah/karri termite damaged joists with treated pine and am looking for an easy fix without doing tedious fibre/plaster anchors.

    Is there a ready mix (tub/cartrige) adhesive that would effectively grab dressed treated pine to fibreglass reinforced gypsum ceiling? Bostic/Gyprock stud adhesives don't seem to like the smooth finish of the pine without lots of nails wich from experience rip through.

    The only other adhesive I can think of is liquid nails, but am yet to try it. I will level the ceiling from underneath with patio tubes/acrow props so will be able to exert a bit of pressure while the adhesive goes off. I can also wire brush/flap disk the ceiling, but not the pine due to the termite coating.

    Any ideas to make this job as easy as possible are welcome

    Thanks
    The problem is the dusty nature of the fibrous plaster rather than the smoothness of the timber. The stud adhesive will stick to the timber ok. I would also screw the board to the joists.
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    The pine I used last time might also have been dusty then as It didn't seem to have ideal adhesion.

    I was planning on vacuuming the paster board prior. Would slightly wetting the plaster and pine help?

    Also are there any screws better than others at resisting pull though? Any spak that bonds to screw heads better than others?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by ++Dan++ View Post
    The pine I used last time might also have been dusty then as It didn't seem to have ideal adhesion.

    I was planning on vacuuming the paster board prior. Would slightly wetting the plaster and pine help?

    Also are there any screws better than others at resisting pull though? Any spak that bonds to screw heads better than others?

    Thanks
    The best screwing method is to use double screws. The first screw nip up tight but not embedded, then the next screw beside it nip it up and embed just below the surface. Now embed the first screw. Using this method you wont get pull through. Just use normal plasterboard screws.

    I would just use the adhesive as normal, coupled with the double screws at 300 mm centers you will have no problems.

    Just use base coat or cornice adhesive to fill the screw holes, topped with top coat.
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    Thanks for the double screw tip Ron, worked a treat

    I had some Bostic and Gyprock stud adhesive so did an experiment on the fiberglass reinforced gypsum using same sized treated pine. The Bostic (Pink) grips slower than the Gyprock (Blue) which gives you more working time and definitely has a better hold. Rips gypsum before it separates, unlike the Gyprock which separates cleanly from the gypsum. The brown adhesives are liquid nails (dark brown) and acrylic liquid nails (light brown).

    Bunnings has stopped selling Bostic btw, luckily found more at Multi-Fix in Osbourne Park

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    I just had to refasten half of a fibrous plaster ceiling. I used#8 Buildex needle point button head screws. They don't pull thru at all. They sink about 4-6mm below the surface. I used cornice adhesive to fill the holes.

    The limiting factor for the adhesive is how clean you can get the backside of the plaster board. Most of the adhesives will stick to both surfaces as long as they are clean. Construction adhesive would be the least expensive and easiest to apply.

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