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    Has anybody had any joy in getting permission from their councils to build a tall fence on your boundry line?

    We have the standard timber fence with small gaps imbetween the uprights (1700mm tall), this offers no noise protection what so ever. We can hear every single thing that goes on next door and it's driving us insane! As we all have our windows open a lot here the sound just travels straight through, that's without them going outside where both of our entertaining area's meet! We want to use this side of the house to put a patio area and a pool, convert the garage into a media room, so piece and privacy are a must

    I have done some research into sound protection and regardless of what you do, unless you can get some height they say your efforts are futile. We would love to build a fence at 2.4m tall for the length of the boundry - 16.3m, and out the front under the carport.

    Any help or advice would be much appreciated

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    Sound attenuation engineers will tell you noise suppression for fencing is difficult to achieve as the sound will just go over the top. I reckon your best bet is too build a twin skin fence. A bit like house framing where the support members are contained within the post line with sheeting [blue board or corrugated etc] to each side. In the resulting cavity, perhaps where privacy is needed the most, you can use noise suppresion insulation.

    Talk to the neighbours they may want to contribute to a better standard of fence for the same reason.

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    Cheers for the responses.

    The ply wood system looks good, just got to hope I can get permission to go tall.

    Another thing the Americans do is use Mass Loaded Vinyl and sandwich it imbetween two lots of sheeting. It's meant to have good results, but without the height you are limited.

    Has anyone built a tall fence on their boundry, what are the chances?

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    It look like you can go 2m without approval:

    Gold Coast City Council - Boundary fences

    I would give them a call or send them an email to the address at the bottom and ask them directly.

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    We have erected a number of boundary fences 2100mm high for clients.
    I make them aware of the regulations, but to date there has been no trouble as all of the neighbouring properties are happy for it.
    It might be a different story if your erect one at the front of your house.
    Honestly if it's a dividing fence between neighbours who else is going to complain?
    You can always contact local council and get approval.
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    Thanks a lot guys for the feedback.

    It is just a straight run of fencing between our place and the neighbours. I can't see why anyone would object, but you know how anal the council's can be. I just don't want to do it and then have problems.

    I have contacted the council before but they don't seem to want to take any responsibility, and keep talking about certifier's? I have not got a clue how the process works here with certifier's!

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    You do need to get advice on siting the fence though, as often it will cause noise you had not previously noted, to echo back at you from other sources. It would be horrible to invest all that money and create an even worse problem.

    As for boundary fences. There is usually something called the boundary fences act in your state or territory that spells out rights and responsibilities. In some places, both parties have to agree that replacing the existing fence is necessary and can sue if someone just pulls it down. It is not the Councils. Their only concern is whether the fence is sound and not so tall it impacts on local amenity. Anything over 6 foot certainly needs to be checked out before you act. And on the front boundary, it is often limited to 3-4 feet. Make sure you have covered your butt before you act - I had a potentially nasty situation arose once.

    And you can only ask the neighbour to go halves to the cost of a basic fence - anything fancier, if you don't both want it, they can refuse to pay the difference ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Cat View Post
    You do need to get advice on siting the fence though, as often it will cause noise you had not previously noted, to echo back at you from other sources. It would be horrible to invest all that money and create an even worse problem.

    As for boundary fences. There is usually something called the boundary fences act in your state or territory that spells out rights and responsibilities. In some places, both parties have to agree that replacing the existing fence is necessary and can sue if someone just pulls it down. It is not the Councils. Their only concern is whether the fence is sound and not so tall it impacts on local amenity. Anything over 6 foot certainly needs to be checked out before you act. And on the front boundary, it is often limited to 3-4 feet. Make sure you have covered your butt before you act - I had a potentially nasty situation arose once.

    And you can only ask the neighbour to go halves to the cost of a basic fence - anything fancier, if you don't both want it, they can refuse to pay the difference ....
    Worth considering the echo and feedback, will have to be careful with my choice of materials.

    The council have just got back to me and I need to complete a variation form, then have them round to inspect the site - cost of $811.00! So I am having some drawings done for the other things we are planning and then I will only have to pay the $811 once!

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    Good idea - I had a similar problem with all that is going on around here at present. Fortunately managed to get it all on the one planning and building approval, so home and hosed (until next time ...)

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    Hi,
    Any one have an idea on the type of posts and fasteners fenced out is using in the above photo?
    thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by srpage View Post
    Hi,
    Any one have an idea on the type of posts and fasteners fenced out is using in the above photo?
    thanks
    Sorry for slow response, as you are now aware I just sent you pm regarding your questions

    Posts used were 150UB /14 hot dipped Uni Beam
    There are a number of cheaper options, all depending on what look you require.
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    just finished putting in a modular garden wall for a client,super easy and great looking.very good soundproofing after the post holes were dug it took two of us 4 hrs to fit 20 mtrs.just look up google under modular garden walls

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