Cheap electric hoists?

Bought one like this some years back, works well but seldom used. Wanted to make a lift with it.

Originally Posted by phild01

Bought one like this some years back, works well but seldom used. Wanted to make a lift with it.

Thanks good to know, what type of lift were you planning to make?

I have a heap of heavy stuff I want to get upstairs, skylights, slate etc.... I think one of these would work well setup in an empty scaffolding bay.

Originally Posted by paddyjoy

Thanks good to know, what type of lift were you planning to make?

I have a heap of heavy stuff I want to get upstairs, skylights, slate etc.... I think one of these would work well setup in an empty scaffolding bay.

In my moment of madness I was keen to set up a passenger lift between floors but the fun police made it all too hard. It would have been safe but I doubt I would have been believed

Bought a 250/500KG size one from Deals Direct about six years ago. Mounted it on a swivel arm on a steel post in my shed. Works ok, but haven't used it for a while because too much junk under it. However have used it to lift ride on mowers, and unloading from a ute or trailer etc. Plenty of wire rope on drum to lift fairly high so should work in a scaffold bay.

I keep a weight attached to the hook to help the wire wind on or off the drum neatly when not lifting anything as otherwise it gets a bit tangled.

Originally Posted by paddyjoy

Thanks good to know, what type of lift were you planning to make?

I have a heap of heavy stuff I want to get upstairs, skylights, slate etc.... I think one of these would work well setup in an empty scaffolding bay.

Have you considered getting a manual hoist? it is easier to control and easier to install.

Originally Posted by phild01

...........but the fun police made it all too hard.

Ha ha would have been an interesting project!

Originally Posted by Normanby

Bought a 250/500KG size one from Deals Direct about six years ago. Mounted it on a swivel arm on a steel post in my shed. Works ok, but haven't used it for a while because too much junk under it. However have used it to lift ride on mowers, and unloading from a ute or trailer etc. Plenty of wire rope on drum to lift fairly high so should work in a scaffold bay.

I keep a weight attached to the hook to help the wire wind on or off the drum neatly when not lifting anything as otherwise it gets a bit tangled.

Thanks for the info sounds good.

Originally Posted by justonething

Have you considered getting a manual hoist? it is easier to control and easier to install.

Not really, do you think it is worth considering? They seem much harder to come by, lots for sale in the US but not much here.

Wow, that's hoist is cheap!

Originally Posted by Marc

A winch or a hoist to lift people would need to be 200% safe and I doubt you can trust a $75 hoist to do that.
I may be wrong though.

No hoist, no matter the cost, would be considered 200% safe for what I had in mind. There's a whole raft of other measures that must be employed to satisfy the safety regime.

Originally Posted by Marc

Yes I know I looked into it to overcome a 3 story set of stairs that go to my backyard.
Talking about safety, this is set to send the safety nazis bezerk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vP-81HY33X0

That's brilliant, they look so proud of their work.

That's awesome ... not sure I'd be too comfortable facing backwards down the stairs though.

Just needs to get the draw cable off the steps and it would be perfect

Originally Posted by Belair_Boy

I have one from the same clone factory and so far it has done all I have asked of it. For the price it has payed for itself many times over, saving me lugging concrete up the stairs and has made lifting steel beams very easy.

The cable jumps around a bit as it winds onto the drum but it is not a big problem and I want to extend the pendant control cable as soon as I find my reel of four core cable. As for longevity, that remains to be seen but I have already got my money out of it. I wouldn't trust my life with it however

Check out my go to whoa if you want to see a picture of the unit I have.

Thanks it's a good setup you have with it, I imagine that would have saved you heaps of time.

I decided to go ahead and buy one tonight, I need to lift a 120kg skylight up 6m so I decided to get the 250/500kg model ($134). Thought it might be cutting it a bit fine lifting 120kg with the 125kg rated version, especially with $3k of glass on the wire, literally.

I also have 6t of slate that needs to come up 8m from the garden to the roof so this will really help.

Originally Posted by paddyjoy

Thanks it's a good setup you have with it, I imagine that would have saved you heaps of time.

I decided to go ahead and buy one tonight, I need to lift a 120kg skylight up 6m so I decided to get the 250/500kg model ($134). Thought it might be cutting it a bit fine lifting 120kg with the 125kg rated version, especially with $3k of glass on the wire, literally.

I also have 6t of slate that needs to come up 8m from the garden to the roof so this will really help.

Do some test lifting runs first before risking anything expensive.

For some reason this one reminds me oa a portaloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W92vFzXAEtw

This one is impressive, and lifts up to 181Kg,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8D0VRsnlBM

Originally Posted by paddyjoy

Thanks it's a good setup you have with it, I imagine that would have saved you heaps of time.

I decided to go ahead and buy one tonight, I need to lift a 120kg skylight up 6m so I decided to get the 250/500kg model ($134). Thought it might be cutting it a bit fine lifting 120kg with the 125kg rated version, especially with $3k of glass on the wire, literally.

I also have 6t of slate that needs to come up 8m from the garden to the roof so this will really help.

If I had a $3K skylight I would be getting the manufacturer to be lifting and installing it, not worth risking that much money possibly breaking it,
Post some pics of it in use, and what type of glass is it at $3k ?

Originally Posted by phild01

Do some test lifting runs first before risking anything expensive.

I think I have some spare kids around the place that would love a ride on it ;-)

Originally Posted by METRIX

For some reason this one reminds me oa a portaloo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W92vFzXAEtw

Ha ha I agree, you would want to lock that room if you were having a party, could easily be mistaken for a toilet.

Originally Posted by METRIX

If I had a $3K skylight I would be getting the manufacturer to be lifting and installing it, not worth risking that much money possibly breaking it,
Post some pics of it in use, and what type of glass is it at $3k ?

The glass component of it is probably worth around $1,500, the rest of the cost was in the flashing, frame, extrusions, delivery etc... The glass is a low E argon double glazed unit, self cleaning, toughened and laminated 10.76mm/argon/6mm 3000mmx800mm. It's bloody big and ackward. It would be great if the manufacturer could install it however no one is interested in doing it without a crane, and to use a crane here you have to close the street down, costs an absolute fortune. The manufacturer will help me do the final install if I can get it up there, after he visited our place he jokingly said he was going to change his phone number after he left.

I'll definitely get some pics once I get it up and running.

Originally Posted by paddyjoy

The manufacturer will help me do the final install if I can get it up there, after he visited our place he jokingly said he was going to change his phone number after he left.

Haha, good to see he has a sense of humour.

Originally Posted by Gaza

Glass suckers and team of guys is the way to go

Yes I know this would be great, I could sit back and watch them do it ha ha Getting it in off the street with just two of us was a challenge in itself.

Unfortunately because it needs to go right at the back of the house you need at least a 14m boom which means outriggers extended even on the small cranes, blocking the road. It's a shame my old neighbour sold his house as he was pretty accommodating and let me use his driveway.

It's not something you can use a wind up duct lifter for is it? I hired two of them to lift a large beam when I couldn't fit a crane.

Maybe consider building a timber crate for it with some foam absorbing packing, enough to protect the glass from accidental knocks. The hoist you bought would probably be fine, secured well. You could also use a safety rope configured for manual control, in any event of failure.

Originally Posted by OBBob

It's not something you can use a wind up duct lifter for is it? I hired two of them to lift a large beam when I couldn't fit a crane.

Thanks for the suggestion yes this is one option I looked at, you can hire them out from kennards

KENNARDS HIRE - Genie Hoist 5.5m

They seem like they would be extremely handy however unfortunately one wouldn't fit sideways down the side of our house. I thought about using one inside also however I have a similar issue where the cut out for the stairs is up against a wall so the lifter can't get in directly under the opening (if that makes sense)

Originally Posted by phild01

Maybe consider building a timber crate for it with some foam absorbing packing, enough to protect the glass from accidental knocks. The hoist you bought would probably be fine, secured well. You could also use a safety rope configured for manual control, in any event of failure.

Good idea will think about this, wouldn't want any accidental gouges in the glass.

Expensive crane failure, think those are worth about $8million

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvyIrsZ7Zhs

Gave the hoist a bit of a test run at the weekend, lifted up a 45kg and 65kg velux. Couldn't really take a video or get many pictures during the process as it was a bit fiddly. You need one person at the bottom guiding the load and then the person operating the hoist needs to also make sure the cable winds back on correctly, otherwise it tends to bunch up on one side and dramatically hop off, causing the load to drop a couple of centimetres.

When I lift the big one I'll get a few people extra people over to help!

Had some 1 ton bags under the house that turned out to be pretty useful!

Hey... all the houses on your street have severe subsidence on the right!

Glad the test run worked... obviously you won't let any helpers get under the load I hope.

Originally Posted by OBBob

Hey... all the houses on your street have severe subsidence on the right!

Yeah it's a pain for deliveries, last week getting some timber delivered in the wet the truck driver spent a few minutes skidding around on the hill then gave up, came back later when the truck was lighter.

Originally Posted by OBBob

obviously you won't let any helpers get under the load I hope.

Ha ha of course not!

At least you have drainage!