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    Quote Originally Posted by Brickie View Post
    Im sure it is..
    Well I'm not going to show it to you.
    I'm sure that it would be deleted if I did.
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    Originally posted by corkhead....
    ...I suspect that old Cliffy may be a bit peeved with me for ignoring him once. ......[/

    Bugger, I went to a woodwork meeting & missed a good bun fight.

    I have 2 things to say to you corkhead, neither of them are very original but I think they are funny so I'll repeat them here.

    1. Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig enjoys it.

    2. Never try to teach a pig to sing. It wastes your time and annoys the pig.

    3. (I found another one. ) With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine.

    4. (I lied.) If you want to grizzle about the other forum or people who post there, do it there, not here, this is NOT the place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brickie View Post
    Ok, I started this, can I end it?

    Please close, if possible?
    Sorry, but that irks me more than anything. Closing a thread should be an absolute last resort. I don't think it should be done where a thread involves some degree of controversy.

    And John, do you remember how it ended with that particular member who spat the dummy? My perception of it was that some where taking the micky, like they did with the pen turners. And for what its worth, I'll bet my last dollar that the majority of forumites would agree that pen turning is about as interesting as .........well, I'll let you finish the metaphor.

    There is crap I don't like here and there. What I do like about both places is the majority of the people that frequent them, albeit unlike myself, they have many character flaws.

    In my (as has been suggested by some) not so humble opinion (IMNSHO) the moderation has changed somewhat since I first joined up. So have some of the regular posters (not to mention the jokes forum). That is something we all have to get a handle on I would have thought. Nothing stays the same in my experience.

    I remember the hijacked threads. That doesn't seem to happen anymore. In some cases, it is all for the better, but in others (especially where there is some wit involved) I don't think it is.

    I know from my personal experience that I have hijacked a thread by responding to a poster by referring, in part, to what he said in another thread. IMNSHO, it was witty and I got a greeny for it too. For those who can remember, it was about cowboys. Well, that post was deleted. It wasn't offensive or objectionable on any grounds other than being "off topic" to the degree that it did not respond to the original question. Now I didn't agree with that.

    That is why some people refer to this forum as being sterile. Some might say it is too serious.

    Now I will defend the moderators (not that they need it) as it is one of those tasks that draws attention to an individual for mostly the wrong reasons. It can't be easy and I again thank them for their efforts.

    So in conclusion, I would say that the filter has become somewhat too fine. That in turn has killed off some of the humour along with the undesirable crap.

    Now I was thinking about buying a tablesaw. What do you reckon I can get for $100?

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    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    ....Now I was thinking about buying a tablesaw. What do you reckon I can get for $100?
    A table or a saw but not both.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    1. Never wrestle with a pig.
    I suppose that'll be the last I hear from you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawnhead View Post
    I suppose that'll be the last I hear from you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    And John, do you remember how it ended with that particular member who spat the dummy?
    I have no idea. I didn’t follow the thread after reading a page of the replies to my last post, and I haven’t bothered going back there.
    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    And for what its worth, I'll bet my last dollar that the majority of forumites would agree that pen turning is about as interesting as .........well, I'll let you finish the metaphor.
    Well I don’t expect that any of them would want to emigrate then. Personally I reckon that the pens that they turn out look gorgeous, and anyone who receives them as a gift should think themselves a very lucky person, but I don’t want to start an argument with you over this.
    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    IMNSHO, it was witty and I got a greeny for it too. For those who can remember, it was about cowboys. Well, that post was deleted. It wasn't offensive or objectionable on any grounds other than being "off topic" to the degree that it did not respond to the original question. Now I didn't agree with that.
    Yes I’ve had that happen to me as well. A member posted a picture and asked for a caption. I photochopped, and the member sent me a thumsup saying that it was funny in a PM. But it was deleted. I couldn’t see anything offensive in it.

    There was another case where someone posted a thread about the shonky Nimrods that cost the lives of many British soldiers. Someone was trolling and said “Who gives a rats”. I posted something to the effect of ; “These soldiers have given their lives for their country and they deserve the utmost admiration and respect. Weather you agree or disagree with the policies of their govt. they are doing a dangerous job on behalf of all of us, and they deserve the best equipment and maintenance standards, and it’s scandalous that they’re not getting it.

    If you have nothing constructive to add, then I’d suggest that you shut up and take your trolling attitude elsewhere.”
    Both posts were deleted, but I think they should have stayed.

    But then again, if I had my way then nothing would be deleted except for spam, and the place may well degenerate into a cesspit that no decent person would want to visit.

    I respect the fact that this is not my forum and it’s not up to me to make the rules. I believe that there’s plenty of scope for humour here, and that this is the best forum that I’ve found to suit my tastes. The core subject of the forums is woodwork and related topics, and IMO you couldn’t find a better place if you’re interested in the subject, and you’re looking to gain knowledge, or to form friendships with like minded people.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    Never try to teach a pig to sing
    You don't have to teach me. I can sing quite well.
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    Jeez.... Ya go away for a few hours and what ya come back to.

    Personally, I don't think this thread is deserving of either forum or the space it's taking up.

    Pawnhead and others if you read my earlier post you will have seen that most moderation is done either by the poster or because we have received complaints from other members. There are people from all races, religions, and genders using these forums now and what you or I may think is fine, another group may be highly offended by. If a post is reported then in most instances it is acted on, this could be as simple as changing a word or could involve deleting the post and in the worst case giving an infraction.

    From day one I have been strongly against almost any form of moderation or censorship. Personally I still am, however for a forum this size to survive and grow it must have some sense of decorum and in our case it's pretty much driven by the members themselves.
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    Back to the thread "Where did the humour go"

    Like it or not people, there is no them and us, because they are us and some of us are them.

    Some seem to have missed the point completely. TheBlokeyShid has basically been responsible for the (perceived by some) recent lack of humor here. Funny thing though, I had a look in there a couple of days ago, after being sent a link and didn't see anything even remotely funny or worthy of being called humor. Just a whole heap of the same rubbish that we used to get here, only with a helping of foul language thrown in just for fun. Now I'm not a prude, far from it, I'll mix it with the best that anyone here or there can dish out, I also have a really good sense of humor, but try as I might I couldn't find the humor and was pretty disgusted with what I read.

    No sour grapes, no feeling of being threatened or suffering from inferiority problems. Just a big thank you to TheBlokeyShid for giving our members a place let off steam and swear and carry on as blokes are sometimes want to do.

    TheShid has also been responsible for people coming back to these forums because the hijacking has all but gone, the hazing and often unwelcoming replies to newies has all but gone, the boys club gang banging has all but gone and hopefully it won't make a return.
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    Below are just 4 of the many responses I've received over the last couple of days from members who don't want to get into a bun fight or inflame the thread. I'm not fussed either way, anyone who wants a bun fight bring it on. I've been told I've got great buns.
    • The only people complaing are the ones that have gone to BS. Personally I don't give a f*ck what they think!!
    • so now they have to learn a more refined version of humour, one that is genuinely funny, not over the top hurtful or personally directed.
    • Yes the forums have changed "they evolved". For the better I think
    • There's humour and there's humour , then there's drivel and hijacking people's thread which started with a question they wouldn't have asked if they didn't what to know/learn.
    In conclusion: For goodness sake people, lets build a bridge, get over it, get on with the woodwork and bury the hatchet....
    Preferably in chunk of wood and not someones head.


    Cheers - Neil

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    Points taken Neil.
    Sorry for all the ruckus.
    Quote Originally Posted by ubeaut View Post
    For goodness sake people, lets build a bridge, get over it, get on with the woodwork and bury the hatchet....
    Hey Cliffy.

    Sorry my hand's a bit dirty, but shake?

    Cheers
    Corky Pig
    Cheers, John

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    Quote Originally Posted by pawnhead View Post
    Points taken Neil.
    Sorry for all the ruckus.Hey Cliffy.

    Sorry my hand's a bit dirty, but shake?

    Cheers
    Corky Pig
    No problems, & contrary to what you might think, Ding is still a mate.


    I post there & I post here, not everything here is funny to me & not everything there is funny to me.

    You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.

    Don't get caught trying to please yourself.
    Cliff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    You can please some of the people some of the time but you can't please all of the people all of the time.
    Lydgate's famous quote was actually somewhat different to that, and Lincoln adapted a version substituting 'fool' for 'please'. But I'm being quite pedantic now which is oft my bent, so feel free to reply with a healthy dose of derision.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Rogers View Post
    Don't get caught trying to please yourself.
    Ah, what's life without it's little (or in my case large) pleasures, but that's some wise advice there Cliffy.

    Have a nice day.
    Cheers
    Cheers, John

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    Thumbs up The humours still here

    Some interesting discussion here about "where has the Humour gone" ,I dont think its gone in fact it has retained that same OZ compliment to taking the 'mickey' giving some of it but basically without intended offense.

    Seen these forums grow somewhat and it is due to the work behind the scenes that moderators do that they're prepared to give so much of their own time in keeping the 6000 odd membership on an even keel. Imagine trying to do that without the impartiality and fairmindedness thats required so all credit goes to these guy's

    I was once approached to Moderate but I could'nt give the time and obvious effort required due to events going on on a personal basis and therefore had to decline a gracious offer much my own dismay at the time as this forum can and does mean a lot in as much as it is a source of information,humility and jocular entertainment.

    You would have to go along way to find a forum such as this with the overall content that it displays ...it is the reason I stay and enjoy.

    Keep the hilarity,humour and the good natured banter entertaining as it always is.

    Cheers
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    this thread took too long to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boban View Post
    Sorry, but that irks me more than anything. Closing a thread should be an absolute last resort. I don't think it should be done where a thread involves some degree of controversy.

    And John, do you remember how it ended with that particular member who spat the dummy? My perception of it was that some where taking the micky, like they did with the pen turners. And for what its worth, I'll bet my last dollar that the majority of forumites would agree that pen turning is about as interesting as .........well, I'll let you finish the metaphor.

    There is crap I don't like here and there. What I do like about both places is the majority of the people that frequent them, albeit unlike myself, they have many character flaws.

    In my (as has been suggested by some) not so humble opinion (IMNSHO) the moderation has changed somewhat since I first joined up. So have some of the regular posters (not to mention the jokes forum). That is something we all have to get a handle on I would have thought. Nothing stays the same in my experience.

    I remember the hijacked threads. That doesn't seem to happen anymore. In some cases, it is all for the better, but in others (especially where there is some wit involved) I don't think it is.

    I know from my personal experience that I have hijacked a thread by responding to a poster by referring, in part, to what he said in another thread. IMNSHO, it was witty and I got a greeny for it too. For those who can remember, it was about cowboys. Well, that post was deleted. It wasn't offensive or objectionable on any grounds other than being "off topic" to the degree that it did not respond to the original question. Now I didn't agree with that.

    That is why some people refer to this forum as being sterile. Some might say it is too serious.

    Now I will defend the moderators (not that they need it) as it is one of those tasks that draws attention to an individual for mostly the wrong reasons. It can't be easy and I again thank them for their efforts.

    So in conclusion, I would say that the filter has become somewhat too fine. That in turn has killed off some of the humour along with the undesirable crap.

    Now I was thinking about buying a tablesaw. What do you reckon I can get for $100?
    Brilliant Boban,

    I wish I had your pensmanship. Thats what I have been trying to say

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    Where did the humour go?
    Sorry to disappoint... but I havent gone anywhere! Im still here

    Seriously? heck I'll give it a go no wukkers!

    I reckon the humors still here hasnt changed buggar all... just you gotta wade through hundreds of threads to get the funny stuff is all... MATE! THIS PLACE HAS GROWN!! Humor is all around you... and us... the forum has a fair bit of fun and frivolity perhaps not as much as awhile back but well moderation takes its toll I guess but thats cool no worries...

    For myself Im trying to contain my writings on the forums and letting rip in the blog area... Now THAT was a good idea Neil!! ...seems to make sence to do so thats all... that way I can let loose as much as I want an even go of track as far as I like hyjack myself shanghai myself... whatever... all without offending anyone... way I see it is that way I can keep pretty much on tack on the forums and the urge I have to write copious amounts to explain what Im saying is voided and I actually have started to get short concise and to the point ...occasionally hey Im tryin Im tryin!

    As for the other place... well I havent been there for months and have no interest in doing so lifes too short to bother with somethings and thats one of them... I actually have no issues with anyone over there even one who thinks I have a problem with him I dont... well okay there is one but hey we cant please everyone and theres always gonna be one dipstick we dont get along with so thats cool no wukkers here... for the rest of the bods over there that come here theyre okay in my book... but me Im done with the thing and havent and wont go back there.

    Sometimes when explosions happen and the plot is lost its best to come back after a time away to smooth the waters and over a short period let them know its over... then just walk away... saves a continued feud or angst or even perhaps feelings of hurt whatever it calms the waters and its all good again.

    Gotta say one thing bout that though... sometimes... just sometimes its a bloody good feelin to just LET RIP! SPIT THE DUMMY! LOOSE THE PLOT! and generally tell all and sundry what you REALLY think

    But the humor mate... its still here and if you cant find it your either not lookin hard enough or not typin!!
    BUGGARBUMBASTARD!!! or other words to that effect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wild Dingo View Post

    As for the other place... well I havent been there for months and have no interest in doing so lifes too short to bother with somethings and thats one of them... I actually have no issues with anyone over there even one who thinks I have a problem with him I dont... well okay there is one but hey we cant please everyone and theres always gonna be one dipstick we dont get along with so thats cool no wukkers here... for the rest of the bods over there that come here theyre okay in my book... but me Im done with the thing and havent and wont go back there.
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    Didnt you see Neils post?

    The, them/us, we/not we.
    Its a dead issue.

    I really dont know why you lot keep going on about it?

    I am a member of a F250 forum.
    I am a member of a building forum.
    I am a member of a photo forum.

    So what?
    Im a big boy, I can go where I please on the internet until my mummy takes my computer away from me.

    The us/them issue, I just dont get it?

    God gave us the internet so we can roam and learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Brickie View Post
    ...I am a member of a F250 forum.....
    There is an F250 forum???? How sick is that?
    Cliff

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