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    I'm asking here because I think the members here are much smarter than my local council and much more knowledgeable too.
    I had a "Thunk" moment yesterday when playing with the firepit. As we will not be able to afford an extension to the house I was contemplating placing the firepit and BBQ area parallel to our property boundary and as close as I reasonably can to it.
    So being a good citizen I called the building department and asked if there were any regulations concerning this and if I needed a permit to build.
    As far as the local council is concerned they don't care, no permit needed and no advice on placement. OK I thought if they have no safety guidelines I'll call the local CFA brigade to ask for some general advice on safe clearances. Not a chance I think they are so scared of being sued thay won't even offer any general guidelings that aren't on the website and I found the website unhelpful on this particular matter
    So my questions to the council were height of the chimney?
    Clearances to buildings?
    Clearances to property boundary?

    Apart from that what's good general building practice with this sort of permanent thing
    Being close to external power and water I want to put in a sink for quickly rinsing stuff and that will drain to our poor drought hit gardens
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    When you say fire pit... what do you mean by fire pit...cos the firepit i think of is several meters across and is just on the ground and will keep you warm from several K away. do you mean one of them baskets that you can sit around and sip Chardonnay? oops your in Geelong so VB. how big is it and what sort of bbq is it. Ive had some chats with RFS people when getting permits and they dont seem to have any guidelines other than dont be an @@@@ and dont burn anything thats open next to your house or next to a fence / tree etc. the last bloke i spoke to suggested i should make my bonfire bigger...huh...umm ok will do...
    So it might be that they arent afraid of giving the rules out rather they just dont have any specific ones.

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    Please! Sparkling Burgundy from the local Scotchmans Hill winery
    That's pretty much what the website insinuates although there is a 2 metre clearance to combustibles mentioned OK Fence gets a sheet of gal on it as the house and new sleepout will be gal clad anyway
    BBQ pit will have a big cast iron brake drum as the primary container and I envision a curved wall and cone above it Charcoal bed will be next to that then the gas burners then the sinks
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    Shakes my head and wonders who is going to build this fire pit.
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    This sounds more like a full blown outdoor kitchen/bbq/firepit area than just a dedicated spot to roast some marshmallows over some burning offcuts....
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatypusGardens View Post
    This sounds more like a full blown outdoor kitchen/bbq/firepit area than just a dedicated spot to roast some marshmallows over some burning offcuts....
    You're right, it is. It incorporates a fire pit, but being the chef that he is, Moondog of course loves having multiple cooking options. Truth is, I would much prefer cooking outdoors for most of the year anyway, but especially in summer. And if we're cooking something particularly stinky, like fish.
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    It only just dawned on me that you two are a couple..............








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    Treated pine off-cuts of course
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    Mr & Mrs Dog-Berg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondog55 View Post
    Mr & Mrs Dog-Berg
    This too, Mr Moondog, shall keep.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondog55 View Post
    Treated pine off-cuts of course

    The heavier ones burn the best and creates the prettiest coloured smoke and bubbles.





    (and the best tasting marshmallows )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondog55 View Post
    Mr & Mrs Dog-Berg

    Well it wouldn't work to call yourselves moondog and moon[female canine]


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    Anyway, back on topic (for now)

    I still have no idea what you're planning to build, where it is and what the main obstacles are.







    Draw us a picture.....or something.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatypusGardens View Post

    and what the main obstacles are.







    Draw us a picture.....or something.



    Picture a hole in the ground, a great big deep one wit crumbling edges; now picture Cecile and I standing on the edge of this pit; setting fire to $50- notes and tossing them down into the maw
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondog55 View Post
    Picture a hole in the ground, a great big deep one wit crumbling edges; now picture Cecile and I standing on the edge of this pit; setting fire to $50- notes and tossing them down into the maw

    I'm on my way.
    (will bring beer if you supply the $50 notes)



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    What, no 100s?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatypusGardens View Post
    Well it wouldn't work to call yourselves moondog and moon[female canine]


    *cracking up laughing here as I find this*

    Ted and Cecile will do, thank you very much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecile View Post
    *cracking up laughing here as I find this*

    Ted and Cecile will do, thank you very much.
    Yes ma'am, no worries.









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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecile View Post
    You're right, it is. It incorporates a fire pit, but being the chef that he is, Moondog of course loves having multiple cooking options. Truth is, I would much prefer cooking outdoors for most of the year anyway, but especially in summer. And if we're cooking something particularly stinky, like fish.
    Is he Maori?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bros View Post
    Is he Maori?
    ??

    No. He just loves to cook, and the fire pit/outdoor kitchen isn't a hangi, it'll be a proper outdoor kitchen. If we want a hangi, we will go across the street and visit with the Maoris who live there. Salmon leaves a pall of fishy aromas in the house, and to be able to cook it outside would be a bonus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cecile View Post
    ??

    No. He just loves to cook, and the fire pit/outdoor kitchen isn't a hangi, it'll be a proper outdoor kitchen. If we want a hangi, we will go across the street and visit with the Maoris who live there. Salmon leaves a pall of fishy aromas in the house, and to be able to cook it outside would be a bonus.
    I thought with the fire pit he might like his Hungi's

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    I just like to sit outside with a glass of good port in my hand and dream the fire
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    Some inspiration.

    (Cause you know this "little" project will spiral out of control )





    Quote Originally Posted by Cecile View Post
    Shakes my head and wonders who is going to build this fire pit.
    Get your bricklayer's hat on


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    Actually PeeGee that's close to the picture in my head. What started this train of thought was that we will never have the money to do the big extension on the back of the house coupled with the fact that the garage will need to be demolished very soon as it is now unsafe. Therefore I will have no room to put my "STUFF"
    First plan was to put the BBQ in the centre of the block; my thoughts now [ and so far it's just a thinking about this thought] is to put this BBQ as close to the boundary as I can and pave the area in front of it coupled with a smallish deck and then build a couple of permit exempt sleep-outs facing the deck and paved area
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    Why no pizza oven??? i mean seriously you need to have a pizza oven. ive also head Marc has a brick saw that has experience with pizza ovens...might be able to get a lend hahahaha

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    I don't actually like the old fashioned pizza ovens too much, use a lot of fuel and take a long time to heat up, I have my eye on the big Garth oven for this installation
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moondog55 View Post
    put this BBQ as close to the boundary as I can and pave the area in front of it coupled with a smallish deck and then build a couple of permit exempt sleep-outs facing the deck and paved area
    Sounds good.

    We started having a lot more fires once I made the dedicated spot for fire drum and the little wood shed.
    Always good to have everything in one place and ready to go whenever.


    http://www.renovateforum.com/f82/fire-area-107023/

    (I see yo talking about your fire pit in that thread BTW... 2013....)

    Which reminds me I should be cutting up all that firewood in the front yard and stack it in the shed...


    *sigh*

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    2013 was an age ago but we still have the drums and they get used where they are too
    We have always loved that rock and timber seat you made
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    Had great intentions of making a second one.....
    Just need a couple of rocks....
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    Some photos I saved a while ago.. can't even remember where from now, never got around to doing anything similar, turns out now, I don't have the room (or view) for either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriwrist View Post
    Some photos I saved a while ago.. can't even remember where from now, never got around to doing anything similar, turns out now, I don't have the room (or view) for either.

    Niiiiiice.

    I love the swinging hammock type kinda thing seats.



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    Wish we had the room for it too; but we don't, we liked that swing surrounded firepit the first time we saw it
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    Less talk, more firepit building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PlatypusGardens View Post
    Niiiiiice.

    I love the swinging hammock type kinda thing seats.



    PG! I think they are called love seats. Notice the obvious lack of stubby holders.

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